Mk3 Golf TDI Braking Issue

Hi All.

I've recently bought a Mk3 Golf TDI estate that has been well serviced and looked after.

However... the previous owner did mention that he'd always felt that the brakes weren't quite as good as they should be, and I've noticed the following:

On the initial prod of the brakes, there seems to be reasonable force.

However... if you apply them softly three times in succession, the pedal is firm, but the brakes don't seem to be doing nearly enough work, not least compared to the first prod.

My initial thoughts were 'change the fluid', and sure enough this proved to be rather murky.

Doing this has improved the overall bite when braking from higher speeds, but the problem above is still in play which, having tested the master cylinder as per the Haynes book of lies, I'm left concluding that it's an issue with the servo / non-return valve / vacuum pump.

If you brake as above but in a lower gear with the revs much higher, you can feel the brakes biting that much more when you do the second and third prods of the pedal.

So... before I start pulling it all apart and throwing money at parts I might not need, any ideas as to which is the most likely culprit?

I've checked the vacuum pipework between servo and pump, and there's no obvious leaks, and no hissing when the brakes are applied leading to me to wonder whether it's an inefficient servo (however as I've already said, it seems to have enough pressure on the initial prod of the brakes), inefficient vacuum pump (being a diesel, the vacuum for the servo is not drawn off the inlet manifold and is instead generated by a pump driven off the engine), or simply the one way valve in the vacuum pipework not closing and allowing vacuum to go back to the pump rather than being stored in the servo.

TIA for any useful advice.

-- JackH

Reply to
jackhackettuk
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Isnt there a vacuum reservoir on these? (like a ballcock ball)

Otherwise, sounds like the pump is weak.

Tim.

Reply to
Tim..

Doesn't appear to be - the one way valve has three branches, with the main two going in the direction of the connecting pipe, and the third much smaller and blanked off.

The BoL doesn't seem to indicate that there should be a reservoir coming off the third branch, and I can't see any other points where it would hook in.

Arse.

That'll be cheap then, given Euro Car Parts don't list it...

-- JackH

Reply to
jackhackettuk

Stick a vacuum guage on the 3rd branch & then you can see what's going on.

Reply to
Duncan Wood

But GSF do.

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18850 VACUUM PUMP G3 1.9 Diesel & Turbo Diesel 11/91 2/99

It's 85 quid. Not cheap, but not too bad.

Reply to
Chris Bartram

"No Need..."

Further investigation, i.e: having a look with ones eyes open, revealed a third branch off the main one way valve that went off to the other side of the engine bay by way of 3mm thick (if that), plastic piping... which when I lifted the main engine cover was found to be split right open over the rocker cover.

Having replaced this, the brakes are now working fine. :-)

-- JackH

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jackhackettuk

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