Once upon a time, there was a Focus, a fuse, and a fuel pump ...

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Follow up to last week's sad fuse-blowing saga ...

So, since replacing the fuse, it's been ok. Until tonight, that is. Very
similar set of circumstances to last Friday. It was started outside home
and then driven about seven miles. I was then in the first place for about
5 minutes, then back out and engine started again. Drove about 5 miles to
next place, and stopped again for about 10 minutes this time. Back out,
turned key and it started, only to chugg dismally before stopping.

Whipped up the bonnet and checked the fuel pump fuse. Yep, it had soft-
blown again. Stuck a spare in and confidently turned the key. I didn't hear
the pump run to pressurise the system. Tried a start anyway, but nothing.
Rechecked the fuse, but still ok. Tried to get hold of my mate, but he
wasn't playing, so had to call the missus to come and collect me. We left
the car where it was in B&Q's car park. A few hours later, I had to go and
pick her up from quite nearby, so I decided to swing by my car and give it
one more go, on the basis that when the bad fuse was found and replaced
last week, the car had been cooled for several hours.And guess what ? Yep,
it started, and I drove it home perfectly ok. No fuse blowing. Didn't miss
a beat.

So, here's my take on what's going on. Please feel free to fault my logic
or make other suggestions.

As that fuse feeds nothing but the fuel pump, it's repeated failure must be  
associated with that circuit only. As the fuse is soft-blown rather than
violently blown, that would tend to rule out any intermittent wiring short.
The fact that the fuse *is* soft-blowing, indicates an excess current
condition, which suggests the fuel pump itself. The fact that it happens
when everything is well warmed up, and after two or three starts in close
succession, and always at the turn on when the pump is going from stopped
to run to pressurise the system, again suggests fuel pump. The fact that
tonight when I replaced the fuse immediately after failure, the pump didn't
run, but later when fully cooled down, it did, and ran normally, still
further suggests the pump.

So, would you agree that the next move has got to be a replacement pump ?
Obviously, we will look for chafed wires etc, but I'm not expecting to find
any. Last point. I'm being told that the tank has to be dropped to replace
the pump, due to Ford omitting to put an inspection cover over the tank's
top access point for the pump, under the back seat. Is this true ? Is there
any way to do the job without having to drop the tank ?

TIA

Arfa

Re: Once upon a time, there was a Focus, a fuse, and a fuel pump ...

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:04:43 +0000, Arfa Daily wrote:

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Seems the next logical step.


http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276213

Chris

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Re: Once upon a time, there was a Focus, a fuse, and a fuel pump ...

On 29/03/2012 08:16, Chris Whelan wrote:

Not sure I'd like to use a Dremel with just millimetres between the
metal and the plastic fuel tank!

Is the floor expected to be sealed?  I'm thinking of ingress of fumes
from damaged exhaust etc, plus road noise (notice he removed the sound
deadening undercoat).  The pictures seem to show a fairly wide slot in
the flap, and it doesn't look at all sealed.  The original floor looks
pretty much one piece, with a grommet doing a good job at sealing the
cable hole.

Would removing part of the floor weaken the structure at all?

D

Re: Once upon a time, there was a Focus, a fuse, and a fuel pump ...

David Hearn wrote:

for the trouble it is to do, and the rarity of the job, plus the potential
risks, it really is not worth it.  Removing tanks is usually easier than it
looks at first glance.



Re: Once upon a time, there was a Focus, a fuse, and a fuel pump ...

Arfa Daily wrote:

a thread on it here, seems to be not uncommon, I like the idea of damaged
wiring near the pump:
http://www.rac.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?2008-Ford-Focus-2-0-petrol-fuel-pump-blown-fuse  



Re: Once upon a time, there was a Focus, a fuse, and a fuel pump ...


Thought the next bit would be you'd been wheel clamped and it was a 100
quid charge to free U!...


Bet its shorted turns somewhere in the motor that could cause all of
what you've been describing..

Course you could try a sawn off Six inch nail to see what happens under
extreme duress, but trouble is it won't fit the fuseholder;(...


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Tony Sayer


Re: Once upon a time, there was a Focus, a fuse, and a fuel pump ...

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:53:31 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

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These will:

http://www.thetoolboxshop.com/auto-electrical-circuit-breakers-301-c.asp

Chris

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Re: Once upon a time, there was a Focus, a fuse, and a fuel pump ...

Chris Whelan wrote:

I have seen those somewhere else recently, perhaps Maplins?



Re: Once upon a time, there was a Focus, a fuse, and a fuel pump ...

Arfa Daily wrote:

have you tried bypassing the fuel pump relay?   it is the green with an
orange that feeds the fuel pump.



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