Overhang in car parking bay

How do you intend to open the car doors if both park with their tyres on the white line?

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Not side by side, but end to end in the roadway.

Our local council are red hot making money from parking fines. A lot of the latest parking bays are very cleverly 'mean' in length. So if the first car parking there does not park with a bit of 'overhang', the second car will easily have a lot of 'overhang'.

There seems some difference in opinions on what constitutes not being parked properly within the bay boundary.

Is it that any part of the tyre must not be beyond the white line, or is it that the *centre* of the wheel must not be beyond the white line?

A while ago I investigated the legalities of parking and sleeping in a Campervan overnight on a public road/car park etc.

I learnt that the various "rules" tend to be Council specific. Many stated that if your vehicle's extremities extend into a second parking bay, you need to purchase 2 parking tickets, or be liable to a fine.

(This is perfectly understandable if, say, you have a car and trailer occupying 2 spaces)

Anyway, I soon learnt that there is no National legislation, it is pretty much down to each individual Council to dictate what is and isn't permitted, and what fines may or may not be levied.

Gareth.

There are national guidelines on the size of parking bays. Councils that disregard those guidelines tend to lose out when the matter finally comes to court.

Most on-street parking bays I see these days do not break the area up into separate bays: with pay-and-display rather than one meter per bay it is usually possible to pack more in.

andy,

If you are parking "end to end" along the street then the car's bumpers should not be outside of the white lines. If your tires are touching the white line you are using 2 spaces. In general, the white lines are not there to delimit your tires but to delimit your car. When you say the parking bays are "mean" do you mean that only a very small car will fit?

There are national guidelines on the size of parking bays. Councils that disregard those guidelines tend to lose out when the matter finally comes to court.

This is one of the sites I came across.

Although it is concerned with parking Campervans in London, it can be seen quite clearly that parking "rules" vary considerably from Borough to Borough, and seem to be somewhat "Wooly".

I think they just make it up as they go along.

Gareth

Parking rules do vary but the minimum size of bays should conform to government guidelines.

In Wales: The contravention occurs when one or more wheels of a vehicle are seen to be parked outside of the markings of a parking bay/space.

Which I'd read as neither of the above - no point of contact should be outside the bay.

Wheels with in white lines boot overhaging white line

Not another sleeper cell code. Have to watch the papers in the next few days.

Wheels with in white lines boot overhaging white line

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Far too many unnecessarily large vehicles about these days.

This never used to happen when car parks were full of Ford Anglias and Triumph Heralds.

Cuh.

What about it? Are you being done for not parking within the box? Where was the front to of the car? Is the overall length of the car greater than the box length?

+1. In Sainsburys car park the other day next to some sort of people carrier, all black with blacked out windows like a drug dealer's vehicle. Essentially the same size as a LWB Transit or Master, the tyres were *just* inside the white lines. No room to open doors if parked next to something similar.

Lots of normal, family cars are a very tight fit these days. Longer crumple-zones front and rear, curvier fronts extending further forward and lower down for pedestrian safety and thicker doors for side impact safety. All ignored by the legislation and reality - the minimum size for an on-street parking space is way too narrow for a Mondeo (may also be too short) and many off-street parking has its size based upon the requirements for on-street parking.

If new models of Anglias and Heralds had continued to be made, they would be equally as large now, as they'd have to meet the same safety test requirements.

SteveW

If new models of Anglias and Heralds had continued to be made, they would be equally as large now, as they'd have to meet the same safety test requirements.

SteveW

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One of the problems now is that the occupants would no longer fit inside the Anglia or Herald. Big people need bigger cars.

(In the old days, there might be one Fat Kid (who suffered unrelentless abuse) in the whole school)

My grandad would only ever have a car with a straight 8 in it. His theory was that if anything hit his car it would have to go through the block before it got to him. Of course the cars with straight 8's were always huge Yanky ones.

He died of emphysema.

My grandad would only ever have a car with a straight 8 in it. His theory was that if anything hit his car it would have to go through the block before it got to him. Of course the cars with straight 8's were always huge Yanky ones.

He died of emphysema.

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I wouldn't fancy a straight 8 coming through the passenger cabin during a shunt into something proper solid.

A very popular taxi car in the far East is the Toyota vios. A small to medium salon car, about the size of A3 salon or a VW jetta. Nice plush car as such, but the sad thing which gets me was the seats, it hurts over long distances; too short and somehow not supporting my back enough. Clearly not made for my size, but maybe ok in the East...