Passat fuel injection - still a problem - any ideas ?

The fuel injection system on my missus's 1989 Passat is still playing up.

Starting from cold the revs are all over the place, up and down, the car cuts out 3 or 4 times in the first 10 minutes or so. Settles down when warmed up but hardly smooth.

It is the RP 1781cc engine with a single point Bosch FI unit. My local garage man tells me that this is one of the first EFI units fitted and they cannot attach their diagnostic equipment to this one. Anyways.. attempting a cheap fix they have swapped the FI unit for a 2nd hand part and replaced the 3 sensors (with 3d party units) - to no avail.

They say they are at a loss at what to do next other than for me to try a local EFI specialist or (God help us) a VW dealer !

On another group Martin suggested that 99% of EFI problems are sensor related and 50% of those are due to dodgy cables.

Is it worth swapping the 3 cables or is it more likely the problem lies elsewhere e.g. - ECU ??

Additional info - the crankcase breather pipe is shot and i'll replace that tomorrow but I doubt if it will improve anything and I have not done owt to the engine recently that could have caused this (e.g. stem clean).

The car is not worth a great deal and so I dont think it is worth investing big £ to fix it - better off using that dosh to put towards getting a new motor.

Any ideas gratefully received.

-- JohnB

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JohnB
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The early Bosch mono-motronic is hardly rocket science; it presents very few avenues for fault code reading anyway, so 80% of diagnostic work has to be done by careful examination and a multi meter.

You can do all this yourself.

First check for vacuum leaks and split intake trunking- this is a firm favourite on this engine, hoses on the PCV system especially like to split. Disassembling and cleaning with carb cleaner as you go is the only way.

The throttle butterfly area in the body must be nice and clean, and the inejector properly ultrasonically cleaned too.

After you've done the above check the CTS and ATS for correct readings- I always do it at the ECU, as disconnecting and doing it at the sensor may mask a connector / wiring problem.

CTS - 4v at 10deg c, 0.7v at 80deg c ATS the same.

Actual values are less important than a smooth transition as temperature changes...

hope that helps to begin with.

Tim..

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Tim..

Sounds like a problem I had on one of my passats. I took it to various garages and nobody could diagnose it and suggested I went to the local VW dealer. Anyway I took it to the VW garage and just got them to diagnose it and went and bought the part myself.

It was a squarish type box located on the drivers side bulk head that was connected to an electrical plug. I'm sure it was called the Air-flow meter. VW were wanting a few hundred for the part. I got one mail order from a scrappy from a VW Polo for a few quid.

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Howdy

I've just looked at a picture of an air-flow-meter and it wasn't that. Sorry. It was called an Air-"Something". It was a wee box and sat on the bulk head with a couple of wires going in to it. If I unplugged it the car actually ran better but still not good enough.

It was around 10 years ago so my memory is hazy to say the least.

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Howdy

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