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December 1, 2011, 8:31 pm
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I know that Fiat Punto Grande, Vauxhall Corsa, Alfa Mito, Lancia Ypsilon
(AKA Chrysler Ypsilon) are all cars from the same platform.

Fiat 500 and Ford Ka are also from the same platform.

But today I spotted a Fiat Punto Evo parked next to a new Ford Fiesta, the
resememblence was uncanny. Change the front grille, and the Fiat Punto Evo
transforms into a Ford Fiesta and visa versa. Is this a new platform from
the old Punto? Otherwise you would have Vauxhall = Ford, which can't be true?

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December 2, 2011, 6:03 am
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Should have gone to Specsavers.
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December 2, 2011, 7:20 am
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On 02/12/2011 11:03, SteveH wrote:

Just as with animals on different continents, designs seem to be getting
convergent. I reckon it's being driven by the use of CFD.

 

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December 2, 2011, 12:42 pm
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:20:22 +0000, Newshound


More like meeting world impact safety testing. Which has totally
borked any improvements made by CFD as all cars got about 10-15cm
wider to provide space for side impact structures and air bags. This
has also rasied the cars waistline and the roof height has been
increased to regain glass area. To prevent lateral collapse there are
more under floor structures (filled with stowage spaces or batteries)
To meet frontal ped impact testing the car's front has increased in
height and become blunter.
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December 2, 2011, 2:32 pm
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On 02/12/2011 17:42, Peter Hill wrote:

true?

Good point, I guess the noses are all designed around pedestrian impact,
but things like mirrors, wheel arches, rear end profiles are perhaps
still driven by CFD.

Hadn't twigged that width was driven by side impact, but it's very
noticeable how parking bays in old sites are increasingly too narrow.

 

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December 2, 2011, 5:45 pm
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That is, of course, the cheap option. The up-market car makers have avoided
the Mr Blobby looks by using active devices to meet the pedestrian impact
requirement.

It's not inevitable that all cars should look the same it is a consequence
of lazy, cheap design.

 

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December 3, 2011, 3:09 am
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SteveH wrote:

Then vidare uno momente cosi, a Forda Fiestae, No?

http://www.fiat.co.uk/showroom/fiat-punto-evo-3dr/#showroom/punto_evo_3dr

 

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