Well, well. Renault bonnets.

Watchdog just had their latest report on the Renault Clio 2 bonnet-popping saga.

The Renault UK Head of PR (for ten years IIRC) has resigned and turned whistleblower. He says they've known about the problem for a long time and have been trying to hide it because it's too expensive to do a recall on

470,000 cars (that's just UK wide). Many UK staff are unhappy with how it's been played.

They're claiming it's a 'maintenance issue' but checking/oiling the catch doesn't appear in the owners manual *OR* the main dealer service manuals.

Strangely, though, VOSA have now investigated it and say the same thing...

Renault are apparently writing to all owners with advice and an invite to a dealer to have their bonnet checked. Not a recall though, oh no.

BTW, the Renault Clio Campus that is still being sold now also has the same catch...

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PC Paul
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Playing devil's advocate here.....

It's not unknown for catches to play up in such a way - in fact, the one on my 75 did it, too. (ISTR it's the safety catch causing issues).

It's something that's pulled up on an MOT and should be common sense to check during normal servicing.

(ie. if the safety doesn't work, lubricate and / or adjust)

Reply to
SteveH

Seems to be a combination of things - the main catch fails due to corrosion after a few years (they were suggesting due to insufficient plating for the wear it gets round the hole), and the secondary catch is then too flimsy at speed to actually catch and hold against a fast wind snatching the bonnet up.

Yes, it should be oiled, checked, adjusted as needed. But until we get sealed bonets and mandatory (and double checked!) service schedules, it ain't gonna happen.

Reply to
PC Paul

How far to we have to take this?

'I didn't know it was dangerous to drive a car with an insecure steering wheel'

Reply to
SteveH

I think "I didn't know it was dangerous to drive a 3 year old car at 60mph on a flat road" is probably within the bounds of a reasonable way to take it...

Reply to
PC Paul

True, but it would appear bad design is causing a higher than expected amount of incidents.

Justin.

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Justin Cole

PC Paul ( snipped-for-privacy@bitrot.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Why do none of these people ever notice that the safety catch is seizing when they check the oil level once per week or so?

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Adrian
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I didn't know the security of the bonnet was part of the MOT. I've never seen it checked...

Chris

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Chris Whelan

You know, I really can't imagine. You'd think it would be obvious.

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PC Paul

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I've had an advisory for an iffy one.

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SteveH

PC Paul ( snipped-for-privacy@bitrot.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Wouldn't you just...

The only possible explanation I can come up with is that they never undertake basic maintenance - so basic it's even included in the driving test now.

And *surely* that couldn't be the case, can it?

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Adrian

Ahh, but if they did that, they couldn't blame someone else.

'Where there's blame there's a claim'

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SteveH

Thanks, it makes perfect sense, but I couldn't find it here:

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I spend some time at a local MOT place, but I've never seen an actual check done so I suppose closing the bonnet counts as that.

Chris

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Chris Whelan

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HTH.

Reply to
SteveH

Because it gives them untroubled access to the bonnet so they can check the oil level once per week or so?

Reply to
Chris Lawrence

To be fair, it probably does hold when stationary, it's just when it pops up at 60+ that the wind gives it enough of a tug to get it all the way open..

Good job there's no second problem like corrosion which makes the primary catch fail, eh?

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PC Paul

oh yes, in fact i failed a fiat multipla last week as the bonnet wasn't securing fully. i have to say though, they are bloody ugly looking vehicles.

reg

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reg

Chris Lawrence ( snipped-for-privacy@holosys.co.uk.invalid) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

And they don't think "OOooh, no safety catch. That's unusual..."?

Reply to
Adrian

... and the driver does not notice that the bonnet is flapping about.

Reply to
Nick Finnigan

Examing bonnet catches is in the driving test now is it? How about the bushes on the anti-roll bar? Or the rear bearing? How about the blocker bars inthe gearbox? Shouldnt they all be checked too?

McK.

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McKev

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