I have a friend visiting with a Xantia - the rear end of which no longer goes up and down with the lever between the front seats, but just stays down, apparently as low as it will go. The front goes up and down as normal. He says it happened after he braked very hard and stalled - when he started up again, the back wouldn't rise any more.
Any thoughts on what it could be, how to check, etc?
Palindrome ( snipped-for-privacy@privacy.net) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
Plastic clip on the rear height corrector has come disconnected, probably broken. Costs pennies.
WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT JUST GO UNDER THERE TO FIT IT. PEOPLE HAVE DIED LIKE THAT. MAKE SURE THE CAR IS PROPERLY RAISED AND SUPPORTED. If you ignore that, and move the height corrector lever the wrong way (as you'll need to do to fit the clip), you WILL drop the car on your head.
I'm lending him my car to use for the week and will take his car to the local garage on Monday. Thanks to you, I am now prepared for the sucked teeth that I usually get when taking a car to a garage.. :)
I assume that it isn't safe to drive very far like that..but the local garage is only a mile or so away.
Palindrome ( snipped-for-privacy@privacy.net) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
It isn't. If it's flat, there is NO suspension, just the rubber bumpstops. You may well drag and damage the underside of the car on the road, and you will have no rear brakes, since they take their operating pressure from the rear suspension pressure.
It's either 3 minutes work & a £5 for the height corrector or the valve assembly will have suck/shearedthe rivet & that's £130(or more than you hoped for) and about 1/2 an hours work. The 3 minutes includes driving it onto the ramp & diagnosing the fault.
We jacked the whole back of the car up this morning. No, just peeked underneath from well clear of the back!
The long rod going forwards to the height adjust hand control is in place and the lever on the valve assembly does move to and fro as the hand control is moved.
Is this long rod going forward the height corrector, discussed? I couldn't see a plastic clip.
We started the engine with the car jacked up and moved the hand control
- the front went up and down but the wheels at the back didn't lift.
However, on removing the jack, with the hand control in the maximum ground clearance position - the car stayed level - with full ground clearance, front and back and with the engine running or not.
Moving the lever to the normal height (engine running) simply bottomed the back suspension, with the front going to normal height.
So I think that the fault is with the valve that the long rod goes to.. Is that the most likely? Or is the height corrector clip not the one on the rod going to the front of the car?
Something else very noticeable: he has sheared the exhaust pipe, just forward of where it goes into the back box. Is that going to be very expensive - the pipe looks to be continuous to the front manifold,all the way through what I assume is the cat.
So, at the moment, I am expecting the garage to say that it needs a replacement valve assembly and a replacement exhaust pipe and cat. I don't suppose there will be much change from £500 - what do you think?
The last height corrector I got was from ECP (last week) and it cost £92 + Vat it is held on by 3 Torx screws and 4 pipes it takes less than an hour to change. a bit fiddly but a fairly easy job. I had bought it for a Xantia exclusive a couple of weeks ago which had the same problem but a good dose of wd40 and a wiggle with a pair of molesgrips cured it (for the moment!!!)
Thanks. I can't see anything like that from lying on the ground just behind the car, with the car jacked up high enough so both rear wheels clear of the ground.
Can you (anyone?) give me an idea of where I should be able to see this from or where exactly it is?
The panic is a little bit over, as the owner has driven off in mine. I'll phone the garage in the morning to see when he can look at it..Is August a particularly busy time for rural garages?
Sounds reasonable to me! Only problem is, I don't know where to look to see if there is one there or not..Looking for something that isn't there is a tad difficult what you shouldn't be expecting to see..
Incidently, many thanks to those that helped - I do hate going near garages without having a fair idea of what's wrong and how much it should (roughly) cost to put right.. It is great that people here will help.
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