Before I point and laugh muchously, I just wondered if 2750 for a T plate Xantia (apparently without aircon!) is an absolutely ridiculous price and the dealer has been laughinmg so had he still hasn't made it to the bank?
It would be too much if it were new...;-)
Stuffed ( snipped-for-privacy@rse.non) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
What engine? That'd be utterly comical for a lowish spec, but for a 2.1TD (T - bit early for HDi?) or v6 it wouldn't be TOTALLY loonytunes.
If it doesn't have aircon, it must be a total bargain basement - it was standard from about N-reg on all bar LX and LX-derived special editions.
Let's put it this way - my old man's had no trouble from his N-reg 1.8 Dimension which he bought about four years ago for £600 - with a brand new cambelt and clutch fitted...
What's the engine-size?
My auction book here says the following - and note that compared to other cars, like the xsara or laguna (DO NOT go near a laguna!!), this huge auction-house has only sold 4 in 3 years, that could mean their owners keep them or get rid of them via cannon, you never know:
xantia 1.9 turbo d sx - year 1997 - 107k odometer - £240 xantia exclusive HDI - year 2000 - 72k odometer - £2025 xantia sx td 1.9 - year 1994 - 133k odometer - £150 xantia vsx td 1.9 - year 1995 - 195k odometer - £70
Well, not a huge help, but as youc an see the second one they sold went for fair-money, the mileage is low for a diesel (even if it's french) and it's an HDI, and not the base model.
Note that you can't really tell the condition of the car that was sold from the book, just its details as given above, so it's possible the second year
2000 car mentioned was immaculate, although I can't see that being the case myself. £2750 for the one you mentioned would be with the dealer making at least £700 quid profit, going by parkers.co.uk guide, and it's not exactly a new car. I am certain you could get a similar size MPV for your money elsewhere, nearly 3 grand for an 8ish year old car is only viable if it's a merc, which was once funny money.
It's an HDI LX - So 1.9 I suppose?
I made a cockup - Thought it was a Xantia, but turns out it's a Xsara. Not that Parkers seems to think that makes a great deal of difference.
Why would anyone want a seated van when a saloon/ hatch does the job they ask of it?
The dealer is a small backstreet type outfit - The owner bought a crapper of a Carina from him, only fired on three when cold, and two when hot though it took quite some time to get him to accept this (he kept faffing saying he could fix it). That car was 1250, which is way more than I reckon it was worth even in working order, so when she went to get her money back somehow he talked her into another shiny and hoovered thing - A T plate Xsara with apparently piss poor spec for what appears to be a grand or so over book (from what I can find). Cars do go for a few quid more round here due to there being a lot of wealthy retired types keepnig the values up, but 2.5k or more for a 7 year old base spec diesel hatch takes the piss IMO!
See my other post - Truns out to be a Xsara LX HDI. Which Parkers reckon is worth about 1450...
Either this one doesn't have aircon, or the owner is even more stupid than I first thought. And given she claims her 92 Cav had aircon ("It's much better than the Cav, and has two aircon settings, fresh or recirc...") I'm going for a mix of the two.
A fool and their money in this case I think. I said at the time there's plenty of perfectly sound reliable cars for under a grand, but apparently you have to spend big money on old tat to get reliability...
Stuffed ( snipped-for-privacy@rse.non) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
Dunno about value, but it makes a big difference to whether you'd actually want one.
Xantias were bloody good cars.
I drove a Xantia once. OK, it was a high miler that had probably not been serviced for many years, but I didn't like it. The driving position felt all wrong for me, couldn't see myself wanting to drive one every day. Biggest problem was the location of the handbrake, I seem to recall it making no sense!
What? In the middle between the driver's seat and the front passenger's. How unusual, that's where 99% of handbrakes are.
Now an XM is a different fettle of kitsch.
Malc ( snipped-for-privacy@ubht.swest.nhs.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
Unless you're used to Mercs...
My wife & I switch between a Merc 220TE - foot-parking brake and conventional auto - and a Toyota Previa - right-side handbrake and column change auto. Now that can get confusing! Many's the time I find my hand waving in thin air for one or the other!
Was that what you were doing? ;-)
I used to have a LHD Renault 12. When I drove RHD cars I often used to find myself adjusting the window position.
Chris Bolus ( snipped-for-privacy@RILEYELFb0lus.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
Nah, that's easy. They're both autos.
Right hand drive Autobox XM - foot parking brake, normal selector. Left hand drive 2cv - under dash parking brake, dash gearchange...
Now lob the occasional normal RHD manual car in there.
We have a Fiat Thingy (Transit sized van) at work and it only registered with me recently that the handbrake's on the right hand side. For some reason it just seems the natural place for it in that particular van - perhaps because there's so much space between the seat and door.
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