Awww, ya got me all wrong, Pat - It's not that I hate them... It's just that I think they might qualify as the absolute stupidest and most overpriced thing I've ever heard of to hang on a car in the name of "kewlness". I mean, come on... 20 Gs for a set of wheels that you can't possibly drive on without making them look like complete crap? Thanks, but I'd rather spend the $$ on a *COMPLETE CAR* that I *CAN* drive!