Ok...I've got a little over a year to think this one over...

Hello everyone. I have been lurking around this board for the last couple of weeks searching the archives and new messages for as much information as I can find on Miatas. Here's the deal. In a little over a year, maybe a year and a half, I intend to buy my first real sports car, a Miata. I've considered many different kinds of cars, but it had to be small, rear-drive and handle well. I don't care about brute power, I just want enough to zip around some mountain roads. I looked at Porsche 924s and 944s, but the parts cost too much. I do ALL my own maintenance work, and save huge amounts of money, but even the parts for those Porsches were too expensive. I love Porsches, so that made me sad. Anyway, then I started considering Miatas. Now I find myself pointing them out to my fiancee and myself every time I see one. They are truly gorgeous little cars! Anyway, for a considering first time buyer, here's a few questions:

  1. Right now, I own a '73 Beetle. Heavily modified with roll bars, wide tires, Porsche rims, modified 1600DP engine. Fun as hell, handles great, but I spend too much time maintaining it, it's a little too slow, and it runs...well not so great in the winter time. The carb is finicky when it's cold becuase the manifold heat doesn't work right. I need to run full tune-ups and oil changes on it every 2000 miles! When i graduate in about 1.5 years, I won't have the time to do that kind of work anymore. How much maintenance are we talking for a Miata? What is the expected life of the average Miata engine?
200,000 miles?

  1. I want the Miata as a daily driver, and it will be parked in lots very often, so I want a hardtop for it. What hardtops fit what years? Does one hardtop fit everything?

  2. How expensive are parts, generally? I'm used to cheap parts for an aircooled VW....except for performance parts; good ones cost SO much. (of course, that's all I've put on my '73!)

  1. I'm 6'2". I've read a lot of posts about tall drivers here, and it looks like someone with my build (very slim, but legs and arms are proportional to height) will just fit in a Miata as long as it was made before 99. I don't like the exposed headlights of post '99 models anyway, so good for me. Is this pretty accurate? What about the seat foam thing?

  2. That being said, what models should I consider? I'll probably be able to spend about 00 on it, so I assume that narrows my search to higher millage cars from the '90-'95 era; those are the ones with the
1.6 liter engine right?

  1. How much millage is too much? As long as it was well taken care of, 100,000 miles doesn't seem like much to one of these little cars.

  2. I used to own a '93 Ford Festiva. It used a Mazda engine, I beleive it was called the B3; 1.3 liters of SOHC fury. (haha) Looking in the engine bays of Miatas reminds me very much of that Festiva, except the Festiva's engine was mounted transversely. That Festiva made it up to 150,000 miles before I got rid of it becuase some b**ch crashed into me at my highschool graduation. The car was said to be totaled, looked horrible, but still drove well. I gave it to a friend for free. I saw it driving around about two years ago, which was a year after my highschool graduation. So apparently it's still running. HOWEVER, it had a problem with the ignition circuit were the rotor in the distributor would crack like every 30,000 miles and you'd be stranded. $$ to fix. The other problem was that the exhuast seemed to rust out very fast too. What common problems do Miatas have?

  1. Finally (thanks for reading!) is this a good car for someone my age to consider? (I'm 21 and will probably be 23 by the time I can get a Miata) Driving is not just a means of reaching a location to me. The best parts of every day for me are the drives there and back! I need a standard tranny and good handling with moderate power to have fun. I'm not your usual college idiot. I never drink to get drunk, I never drive after drinking, and like I said, I do all my own work on my cars, which I take VERY good care of. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for a lot of my friends (who would never touch my cars).

Thanks

~Anthony

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Anthony
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Anthony, spend a few hours at miata.net. I think you'll find all the answers you need.

Reply to
Lanny Chambers

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There are Miata "out there" with over 225,000. My 90 has just under 99,000. Changing the oil every 3,000 miles helps these little engines keep going virtually forever. And the heater! I've actually turned the heater OFF in the winter 'cause the cockpit got too warm. Put 4 snowtires on your Miata, and keep going through the winter - as long as there's not more than 6" of powder - Miata do not make good snowplows.

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The hardtops will fit every year. They also make the car warmer in the winter.

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Take a look at the vendors in the marketplace at miata.net for price comparisons. I've found that parts ordered through there

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The older models do have more interior room. I just drove a friend's 99 the other day and my legs were not comfortable - felt like the dead pedal was set way higher than in my 90. I'm somewhat vertically challenged so I leave the rest of this to a taller poster. ;)

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Look around a lot. Drive LOTS of different Miata. You'll know when you find *your* car.

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Make sure to ask for maintenance records. I keep a notebook with my oil changes, filter changes, parts added, etc. That's the best way to *know* if the car has been maintained.

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And make sure to stop back in and let us know what Miata snared you! Just remember, red is the fastest color. ;-D

-- Iva & Belle.) '90B Classic Red.) #3 winkin' Miata

Reply to
Iva

Wonderful decision!

Regular oil changes; brakes at some point (depends on how aggressively you drive); timing belt at 60,000; new top someday. Miatas are notably durable even beyond 100,000 miles.

All factory hardtops fit all 1990-2004 at least; not sure if all aftermarket units fit. Very nice in winter, for the large window, and not having to be quite as careful when brushing off snow.

Front and rear brakes (parts and labor) $400; replace electric antenna lift $170; console lid (part only) $80. You'll not get anywhere near this level of economy with a Porshe or Audi. This is the total list of what I've done to my '99 in five years of daily use (Also snow tires on rims, $425, and new summer tires $380)

Lots of argument about the various years and the seat changes. Our local club has several very tall guys in both M1 and M2 (post-99) models

Depending on the time of year, you may be able to go newer. The 1994 was the first year of the 1800cc engine.

You can get a lot of service out of a 100,000 mile car if its been well maintained. If over 60000, make sure someone else paid to change the timing belt already.

That last sentence is the whole reason the Miata exists! Its also relatively easy to insure due to the modest performance- its not known for attracting knucklehead driver.

Just make sure you've got a friend with a van or pickup- you can't move furniture or take the gang tailgating in a Miata.

Have fun Joe Silver '99

Reply to
jchase

Based on my experience, you'll be doing very little maintenance. Regular oil/fluid changes, of course, but I've had one for 12 years and all that's ever gone wrong has been bad plug wires (easy) and a clutch that started to slip (harder, but only necessary because I didn't take care of the plug wires when I should have). Oh, and I finally had to change to catalytic convertor.

For a whole lot of great information, check out miata.net.

I haven't had to replace much...

Yup.

There's a problem where some of the early ones had a crankshaft where the nose of it would break. Not good, but I don't know the secret for determining which is which. It can probably be found at miata.net.

This is *precisely* the car for you!

Reply to
Alan Baker

Not too much. Timing belts 60 kmi, clutch slave occasionally, clutch very occasionally, battery extremely occasionally, etc, all if handled correctly and typically.

I have had an aftermarket supercharger on the car for 120+ kmi.

Miata parts are very reasonable. trussvillemazda.com will give about a 25% discount in addition.

Fit depends on your precise dimensions. Try sitting in one and find out.

1.8l is 94 model year up. Don't forget the hardtop might cost you $800 or whatever at least.

As mentioned, in your range, the short crank of the 1990 Miatas is something serious to consider. The other unexpected thing I can think of right now is the clutch slave, which costs little, especially if you do it yourself. Deer, excursions in the ditch, being crashed into, being shot at, being stoned, and similar cost more. Aftermarket goodies may exceed that. ;)

Leon

Reply to
Leon van Dommelen

Haha...my fiancee has a Land Rover Discovery. Not a problem with hauling stuff around. Anyway, I've never driven anything but small cars. First car, Ford Festiva, second, VW aircooled Beetle, third will hopefully be the Miata. Thanks so much for the courteous replies and good information. I've run into too many automotive boards on the 'net full of morons that just tell you "what?! You want a Miata? Those pieces of **** are slow chick cars!" I fully intend to spend the next year finding out as much as I can from miata.net, this board and various other locations I know are out there somewhere.

On a different note, these cars are even a blast to drive on Gran Turismo 3! (hey, got to procrastinate some how).

~Anthony

Reply to
Anthony

FWIW, the bone-stock GT3 Miatas drive very much like real ones, especially at SSR5 Wet. I use a Logitech wheel, and the semblance to running a real Miata on a wet track is uncanny. Both are experiences in maintaining momentum. And both are giant killers, capable of walking away from "faster" cars..

Reply to
Lanny Chambers

Let me join the chorus and recommend miata.net. There is a hardtop FAQ in the "Tops" forum that will answer this and many other questions.

There's nothing out there that has part prices as good as an air-cooled VW, so you're in for a mild shock no matter what you get. You will be FAR better of with a Miata than a Porsche!

Again, miata.net

Reply to
Natman

I have a 1990 Miata that I bought more than 6 years ago. At that time it had about 90,000 miles on it. I had never owned a convertible before, and I was a little apprehensive about possible future costs of replacing the top, as well as buying a high-mileage car.

However, I have been EXTREMELY pleased with the Miata. For about four years, the only repair cost was to replace the backup light switch. Then I had to have a new clutch, and recently a new timing belt. These have been the only major repair costs, and they are items that would have to be renewed in any car. The top is holding up very well -- partly, no doubt, because I put the hardtop on during the winter months.

The car now has 135,000 miles on it, and the engine shows no sign of wear -- it is not burning any oil for example. I use it every day, and drive my other car (first, a Mercury Grand Marquis when I originally bought the Miata, then a Saab 900, and now a Toyota Avalon) only for long trips, and when I need more room than in the Miata. In my limited experience with parts for the Miata, they do not seem expensive -- certainly not by comparison with the Saab.

Reply to
Kenneth S.

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