190D power

Does anyone want to touch these stupid diesel questions:
Does 190D have any power? I mean as compared with 300D? The 300D turbos take off pretty fast, almost like gas cars. Did they make 190D in turbo? I've never
heard of a 240D turbo either. Also, did they ever make powerful diesels? Like they went to 600, or 6.9L with gas, why didn't they go higher than 350 with diesels? I think that's what they've got for the highest, right? Did they ever make a diesel coupe in the S class? I mean is there any, say, 300SDC, like 380,500,560-SEC? I've seen lots of 300CD coupes but haven't heard of SDC couples. Those would be good cars to have.
Sorry for too many questions, just love those diesels - the fuel guage needle never moves, no matter how much you drive - don't you love those gas prices going up! ;-) Or, if there's a website that has all the models listed, that would be great.
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If you're American you won't like the 190D as here is no turbo and it will feel very underpowered to you.
In those days 'pwerful diesels' were mostly in commercial lorries, which have had turbos for donkeys' years.
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I assum eyou're talking about the W201 chassis 190D; MB has used the 190D monniker for lots of cars over the years.
190D Pickup 121 101 ??? ??? ???- ??? 0 And Delivery Van, Partial Body, 2 Doors 190D Sedan 121 100 ??? ??? ???- ??? 0 Ambulance, Partial Body, 4 Doors 190D Sedan 121 110 1958-1959 Diesel 190D Sedan 121 111 ??? ??? ???- ??? 0 With Sliding Roof 190D Wagon 121 102 ??? ??? ???- ??? 0 Partial Body, 4 Doors 190D 2.2 Sedan 201 122 601 921 1984-1986 190D 2.5 Sedan 201 126 602 911 1987-1989 190D 2.5T Sedan 201 128 602 961 1987-1987 190Db Pickup 121 101 ??? ??? ???- ??? 0 And Delivery Van, Partial Body, 2 Doors 190Db Sedan 121 100 ??? ??? ???- ??? 0 Ambulance, Partial Body, 4 Doors 190Db Sedan 121 110 621 910 1959-1961 Diesel 190Db Sedan 121 111 621 910 1958-1961 0 Sunroof 190Db Wagon 121 102 ??? ??? ???- ??? 0 Partial Body, 4 Doors 190Dc Sedan 110 100 ??? ??? ???- ??? 0 Ambulance, 4 Doors, 2700mm Wheelbase 190Dc Sedan 110 101 ??? ??? ???- ??? 0 4 Doors, For Special Superstructures 190Dc Sedan 110 110 621 912 1962-1965 225645
The 2.5L 190D, which I think was a europe only car is no sluch by any means and gives over 40MPG with a 5 speed (rare) while the US only 1987 290D turbo gets almost 50 MPG (48 is the best I've heard but that's a maximum not average).
There is no turbo 240D.

Back then they didn't feel that made any sense and that if you want the kind of performance that brings buy a gas car. But, these days they make some diesels that are ungodly powerful, albeit without being monster engnines.

You'll have to make one, and poeple do do it. 450SLDC anyone?
Why didn't MB do it? They don't equate power and luxury with diesels; the 300SD was the first attempts at that and it was only sold in the US and Japan.

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Before the advent of the new CDI diesels a diesel M-B was designed for durability and operating economy, especially so in Europe. Therefore the engines were relatively small i.e. 3.0L but could still push the car 85 to 100 mph, 85 being the "recommended" maximum in Germany where most people seem to be content to drive about 60 mph.
So a diesel M-B in Europe wasn't offered in its super luxury coupes but could be had in the S class sedans and is so today, both as a 3.2L six and a 4.0L V-8. Both are HOT! The '05 E320 CDI will be sold in most states and possibly in all states in '06 when all states have low sulfur diesel fuel.
M-B diesels were sold in the USA starting in the late 70's to raise the fleet's average fuel economy.
With respect to your specific question about 190Ds. I believe these were installed in the "baby benz" starting '85 in lieu of the 2.3L four gas engine. With a 5 speed manual these may be acceptable to drivers who don't demand or expect much acceleration - much like a 240D. Remember, all the newer cars now being sold have much more power and are driven so and that's what one needs to keep up with.
Finally, take a look at www.mbz.org
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IIRC the 2.3 l petrol engine and the diesel were available contemporaneously. Given the reduced power of the diesel I would be surprised if it were a replacement for a 2.3-l petrol motor.
There was also a 2-l petrol engine, initially 'conventional', later 'E' (injected) as this technology was introduced across the Merc range. There were other engine sizes too, such as 1.8 and 2.6 litre petrol. (I still have a 1993 2-l fuel-injected petrol 190E.)
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I have a 190D 2.5L 4 gear aut. Lots of power. Accel. like a petrol car. I usually surprice some at the redlight going green. I am 500 meters up front before they even get close to me. Recall a aut. don't drop rpm. at gearshift (very little) so you get the "rocket" feel from 1, 2, 3 and finally 4. gear. It is up in gear 4 after 50 meters.
Up hill it has the tourqe a petrol lacks.
I love it.
My next car will be a mb as well - no dought. You simply want more/better with theese cars.
Get to know it and you'll love the 190D.
190 D 2.0L might be a little too small. 2.5L is fine.
Regards Niels
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In 87 they had a turbo-ed 190D, as mentioned in the list posted by Richard. Those things were ROCKETS. 2.5L 601, IIRC. Still got the upper 30's in mileage, but could hold their own against a 603 powered 300D.
BTW, the fuel gauge on my 300D moves rather quickly... I'm still getting 30mpg, it's just that I'm burning 4 gallons an hour (if you catch my drift :)
-Mike

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