Saw a Maybach on the street today...

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I saw a Maybach 62 on Church street, across the street from ground zero today.
It was solid black with black tinted windows all around. Even the windshield
was tinted as dark as the other windows (never saw that before). I didn't have time to loiter around to see who it belonged to, but I would have liked to know.
Pretty impressive, I must say.
By the way, are they no longer making the 57? I checked out the site and there is no mention of model numbers any more, its just called 'The Maybach' with pictures of only the 62. Was the 57 not selling or something, or are they just not emphasizing it anymore? It seems like a major waste to tool up such an expensive production line for a car like that and just produce one model year.
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It seems a major waste ? Is that owning one or selling one ?
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Thomas J. Paladino Jr. wrote:

I have seen two on the streets now, one black one in London (where it looked even bigger as most of the other cars are small) and one silver parked up in Vegas.
IMO they look much better in the flesh, probably in no small part due to the fact Mercedes seem to choose ugly colour combinations for the press / advertising cars, the Maybach advert in this weekend's FT had a dark brown car, yuk
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The outside is nothing, the inside is what makes these cars worth the money - and the performance. There is literally nothing you can buy today that competes. Try spending some quality time in the back of the newest Rolls or Bentley then try the Maybach - no comparison, the Brit cars seem stone aged by comparison.
They still make the 57 - they just don't need to advertise it; the 62 is the chauffer direvn one the 57 is the drivers car, and you're not likely to buy one because of an add, you'd buy one because you know the car and have been waiting 3 years for it.
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Very true, as far as it goes. But didn't production of the 62 start relatively recently compared to the 57? If so, that would explain its getting more exposure.
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I'm not certain but I don't think so. ALl I do know is they've sold 3X as many Maybachs in their first year out than Rolls Royce sold the same year; apparanly MB's expectatoins were exceedes. Rightly so I say.
I'm WAY behind on putting up the literally thousands of pictures from the Amelia Island concours, but I did put the Maybachh pictures up:
    http://ai.mbz.org/2004/cars/Maybach /
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Richard Sexton wrote:

Don't believe in the ridiculous DC marketing talk - Maybach sales are _way_ behind the wishful thinking of DC: They talked about 1000 cars a year worldwide - but so far e.g. in Germany they sold 57 cars since production began in 2002...
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Yes, but MB aways sells more cars in Los Angeles alone than all of Germany. Do we have any worldwide sales figures?
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Richard Sexton wrote:

Of course MB sells more Maybachs in LA alone than in whole Germany - in Germany many people do not want to show their wealth and so never ever would buy a Maybach despite the fact they could buy one from cash simply.
But also besides that the market for Maybachs is _very_ limited - and those people now having bought a Maybach do not buy one in the next five or seven years: I always said the production figures MB stated they want to reach are way too high.
And no, I do not know of any real production figures. Anyone else maybe?
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Why is this? Is it out of a fear of being kidnapped and held for ransom? I remember reading that this was the case in the Seventies in both Germany and Italy because of the Baader-Meinhof gang and the Red Brigades. I recall that at the time Fiat, particularly, made their high-end models anonymous looking for this very reason. But I'd have thought that this concern was no longer current.
Or is it simply the prevailing European socialistic sentiment? I can't imagine why it should be seen as shameful to be obviously wealthy. If nothing else, it gives the proles something to aspire to.
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snipped-for-privacy@u1.netgate.net (Geoff Miller) haute in die Tasten:

No. It is a difference of cultural behaviour. Europeans, especially from the west of Europe, tend to show quite a deal of understatement instead of boasting about their wealth. If people see somebody with an ridiculously expensive car, say: a Ferrari Enzo Ferrari, they think that its driver has not worked hard for the money and that he needs the car to support his weak personality. From what I have heard and seen, this behaviour is totally different to other regions of the world, where it is common amongst the wealthy to show their wealth loud and clear.
When President Bush travels with a car, he uses a big, big limo specially designed for him. When the leader of the german government travels in a car, he uses a VW phaeton (of course a bullet proof version). Travelling around with a Maybach would bring him bad polls for obviously wasting tax money. When Mercedes introduced the big 600 limousine back in the 60's, german government used to hire some 600 limos and landaulets just for the case of official visits of foreign politicians, the usual transportation for domestic leaders were ordinary S-classes. Since decades Germany was always a very weak market for Rolls Royce. These cars are too "posh" for the german customers. The same is true for Maybach. I fmaybach would regard Germany as an important market for that cars, they would have more showrooms for the customers to see the car. Currently they run exactly two locations, one in Munich, one in Berlin - quite a low number for a country with 82 million inhabitants.
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Geoff Miller wrote:

Frank already gave an excellent answer.
Some things I can add:
Terrorism of the 1970's is different to today's as once political and industrial leaders were individual targets for RAF and Red Brigades but nowadays the common man is the target of arab terrorists so the car one drives is not so important anymore. Fear of kidnapping - by gangsters, not terrorists - is wide-spread amongst very rich people but in reality the danger of being kidnapped from a car is extremely low in Western Europe - and even if one drives a bullet-proof car there is no 100 per cent security. What these cars can give is a feeling of security and it helps against amateurs but not professionals.
Vehicles like a Maybach always put you in the focus of everyone - many people do not like that, they prefer to drive an _ordinary_ car just _not_ to stick out from the crowd.
And there is also many rich people who are not interested at all in cars: They drive S-Classes etc. just because their friends and business partners do and/or expect them to do so, but not because they really want one.
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[ Germans don't like to flaunt their wealth ]

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Very interesting stuff. Thanks, gentlemen.
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Germans are less conspicious than English or American when it comes to the luxury cars. That explains numerous 'naked' boots on Mercedes-Benz and BMW where the decals denoting the motor displacement were to be.
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I've heard about that practice, although only in connection with Mercedes, not BMWs. I've always wondered who'd actually be more likely to order his car that way: a person with a big-engined car who wants to be discreet and not appear to be indulging in conspicuous consumption -- or the owner of a smaller-engined car who hopes it might be mistaken for a more expensive model.
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Geoff Miller wrote:

Both.
And remember there is always many more entry-level models on the streets than top-of-the-line models.
Juergen - 1982 W123 240D auto Euro sedan with option code 260 = Elimination of model designation on trunk lid; with such an old car this makes sense as the model designation was not glued on only as today but two holes were bored into the trunk lid - and these two holes are potential rust spots
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While looking at the Maybach website I was amused to see that Merc management cannot resist the temptation to go off at a tangent.
http://www.maybach-manufaktur.com/uk/main1000.html
After white goods (household electrical goods to Americans) and aerospace it's watches.
What's wrong with concentrating on cars?
Anyway, I found a ref to both the 57 and the 62 in the section called "The Maybach" (click exterior/dimensions)
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They've sold watches for years; this is not new.
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True, but hasn't company quality been declining for years? :-)
Yes, this watch must be their fanciest yet? I suppose it goes with the Maybach, their fanciest car yet.
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On Thu, 20 May 2004 10:09:18 +0100, "Dori A Schmetterling" wrote:

I think the watch production is outsourced, but I get your very valid point. Check out the wristwatch that comes with the new SLR: http://www.orolus.com/comingsoon.shtml ;)
Only £6,600 (obviously you must have the car to be allowed to buy the watch - another £313,465!).
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