Ultra Low Sulfur diesel starting issues and gasket issues

I was filling up my '82 300 TDT yesterday and the tanker driver was filling up the station I was at at the same time.

I went over and asked him if he knew if the Ultra Low Sulfur diesel made cars harder to start. He said it did and that the company gives them bulletins about it and how to get their trucks to start and precautions they have to take so they don't get stranded when they deliver to cold places.

I told him that he was the first oil company guy to admit that there were cold starting problems with the new fuel, that none of the higher ups I called would admit it.

He said that was par for the course and he wasn't suprised.

The issue is higher flash point, just as I suspected.

And the reason the new fuel is eating your fuel lines and he told me they just got an advisory that it is eating the "O" rings out of injectors is that they are trying various additives, probably like the toulene someone on the list was recommending, to raise the flash point of the fuel.

So they are testing additives on the public's vehicles to try and find something that will raise the flash point but not dissolve all your seals and they haven't succeeded on either count yet.

Paul Fretheim

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heav
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Heh... same ol same ol when the diesel was reformulated last time...

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Tiger

Yeah yeah.. diesel cars standed everywhere in Europe, land of ULS diesel. One just trips over them...

DAS

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Dori A Schmetterling

I've also heard that the newer fuel results in less MPG. I had noticed that my 80 300SD, which always got right around 26MPG, is now getting around 22. In fact, I had noticed this and was looking for leaks, etc. But now I'm thinking maybe it's the new fuel? Anyone else check and notice any MPG change?

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trader4

Tell the oil companies here to get the right additives then, because they are doing something wrong here.

It is difficult to be sarcastic in a second language. Nice job!

Please do not imagine that I am not aware of the fact that European standards have required ULS for some time. So when did you last use LSD? Perhaps you have not had the opportunity for comparison?

Paul

Dori A Schmetterl> Yeah yeah.. diesel cars standed everywhere in Europe, land of ULS diesel.

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heav

Thanks ever so.

DAS

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Dori A Schmetterling

Dori is a Brit.

American English would not qualify as a second language, more like a first and a half language.

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greek_philosophizer

DAS

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Dori A Schmetterling

I have noticed my 300d getting less miles to the gal, I only noticed the low sulphur sign oin the pump about a month ago. I guess I wasn't paying attention, but I didn't see one on the pump at the texaco, are they still selling non low sulphur diesel? I am about ready to start cooking my own biodiesel on the stove to protect poor old emily's injector pump,

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<benz831

It depends where you are. In California they switched to ULSD totally last June. Some time this year the whole country has to switch so the car manufacturers can start selling diesel cars with catalytic converters.

Paul

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heav

The Feds only mandate 80% of production be ULSD until 2010 or something like that.

So if you want to stink go looking for the other 20 precent.

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