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Richard Sexton wrote:

Yes, abolutely!
And shifting into nutpicking gear ;-) I can say it was produced from 10/85 until 02/91, only 20.836 vehicles (compared to 105.422 300SE/SEL from 09/85 until 10/91, 818.036 W126 sedans total).

Until the W126 face-lift there was the 280S (260SE equivalent) which intentionally had a carburettor engine, thought of by MB as to be easier serviceable in remote parts of the world than an injection engine. In the mid-eighties they realised the world had changed...
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818K cars? Did Mercedes ever make that many other S class chassis cars or does the 126 hold that record.

That makes sense, thanks.
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Richard Sexton wrote: (W126 S-Class)

Although I must admit I don't have the W220 figures from MB at hand I can definitely say that the W126 with 818.036 sedans _does_ hold the record by far:
W220 = 485.000 (one non-MB source only; close to 500k figure IS ok) 07/1998 - 07/2005 (latter ca.)
W140 = 406.532 (MB figure) 04/1991 - 09/1998 (latter ca.)
W126 = 818.036 (MB figure) 12/1979 - 04/1992
W116 = 473.035 (MB figure) 08/1972 - 09/1980
W109/109 = 361.400 (my calculation) 08/1965 - 11/1972
W111/112 = 344.751 (MB figure) 08/1959 - 01/1968 (yes, sixty-eight)
W180/105/128 Pontoon 6-cylinders = 111.035 (MB figure) 06/1954 - 08/1959
Note: Figures for sedans - no coupes, no cabrios included! Production dates (serial production) MB figures except (latter ca.)
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Slightly OT: my father had a 250 W123 for some years. Nice car but THIRSTY.
I think it was the one after that that was a W124 200D - did it have been the 72 PS engine?
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Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

Yes, that's what made the 280E more popular: More power, less fuel consumption.

In the beginning the W124 200D had 72 PS (01/1985 - 08/1989), later (09/1989 - 07/1993 (- 08/1995 E200 Diesel)) it got a power boost ;-) to 75 PS (newly constructed pre-chamber with tilted-angle injection, 40 per cent less emissions).
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Hi Dori,
Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

W140 series still started with the old nomenclature, e.g. 300SE 2.8 which from autumn 1993 on was change to S280 (both had M104 E28 w/2799 ccm 193 PS). Curious was that the diesel here in Europe for a _very_ short time only was labeled 300SD Turbo before it was renamed to S350 Turbodiesel (both OM 603 D35 A3445 ccm 150 PS). When it got a new engine in 06/96 (OM 606 D30 LA 2996 ccm 177 PS) it again was renamed, this time to S300 Turbodiesel.

That is pre-facelift W126 - 280S (possibly; SWB, old bumpers and side padding, aftermarket rim front right, old plastic wheel cover rear right).

No - no S260, never ever. 260SE after the W126 facelift (substituted 280S).

W126 260SE.
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yvind Syljusen wrote:

Right.
No, until 12/92 the 300SE/SEL also came with a 5-speed manual as standard (at least in Germany).

Yes, bore was identical with 89,9 mm, stroke was 84,0 mm instead of 73,5 mm (2799 vs 3199 ccm).
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Juergen . wrote:

Yes, correct, I was thinking that at the time with 300SE 2.8 / S280, that one was the only one with manual :-)

Did the W124 have newer versions of the M104 earlier than the W140, like distributor-less ignition and the variable-length intake?

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yvind Syljusen wrote:

_As far as I know_ not - but please note I'm no expert so I may err!
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Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

Never ever.
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cp wrote:

Yes, W140 S280 1993 - 1998.

5-speed manual was standard for 300SE 2.8 (later renamed S280) and 300SE/SEL (later renamed S320).

Smaller engine 1992 - 1998, bigger engine 1991 - 12/92.
All above valid for Germany.
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Well, at least I was right about the existence of an S280 and only partially wrong about the 260 (260S or S260).... ;-)
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As Princess Di will testify.
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She wasn't wearing a seat belt. All bets are off. OTOH Barry Sheeen came off his Motorcycle at Daytona at 187 mph and was fine.
(I hope I didn't drive you crazy by quoting your message properly and deleting all that irrelevant material.)
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I decided not be anally retentive... ;-)
Yes, she wasn't, and the chap who was survived. Coming off a motorbike is different; less likely to smash your head against a windscreen.
In fact, if I had read further down the thread I probably would not have bothered with this post since 'suitable' Di references were made...
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Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

She? He?
Reading your post made no sense until I scrolled down to read the original. Then I had to scroll back to read the rest. See why top posting works badly in these discussions?

We won't blame that to misquoting.
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That's terrible. So inconvenient, having to scroll down a few mm to a trimmed quote. Nothing like the screeds I have to read through to reach a few pearls of wisdom posted in reply, though.
I think it's more a case of suitable trimming, as someone said in the OT bit of the Built like a Merc thread.
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Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

Still, you didn't have to do that with my post, right? One glance is enough to read and understand all.

I said that bottom posting without trimming is as bad a top posting. Nothing beats bottom/inline posting with proper trimming. Ever seen a trimming top poster? You sure don't.
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That depends on the size of the window/panel.
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PS. I still prefer to read top posts, but as you are a nice guy who trims his posts I don't mind your other ways... :-)
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