Will New, Cleaner Diesel Cars Fuel Comeback in U.S.?

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Will New, Cleaner Diesel Cars Fuel Comeback in U.S.?

By Greg Schneider Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, February 22, 2004; Page A01

Joe Gibbs is back coaching the Redskins, '70s TV shows return as big-budget movies and now the auto industry is pushing a technology that's been around the block a few times:

Diesel.

The last time most Americans gave diesel a try, it was smoky and loud and had no acceleration. Diesel was an 18-wheeler clattering up a hill, a 1979 Cadillac with black exhaust stains on the back. U.S. carmakers eventually quit offering diesel engines except in the biggest pickup trucks.

Now several companies are bringing them back, hoping to do for diesel power what the Atkins diet has done for red meat -- turn public perception on its head. They are pitching diesel as not only good for drivers, but good for the planet.

"This is really a conservation technology," said Allen Schaeffer, director of the Diesel Technology Forum, an alliance of automakers, engine companies and fuel suppliers.

Because of advances in electronics, diesel vehicles now do a far better job of controlling how fuel burns in the engine, eliminating much of the smoke and noise of 20 years ago. That allows some of diesel's good qualities to shine: It gets 20 to 40 percent better fuel economy than gasoline power. Diesel engines tend to be far more durable than gasoline engines, routinely lasting for many hundreds of thousands of miles. A diesel has tremendous low-end power, which is good for hauling boats or jumping off the line at a stoplight.

What's more, the federal government has mandated that low-sulfur diesel fuel be available in the United States by 2006, which experts say will help diesel engines meet strict air pollution guidelines that go into effect in 2007.

"Historically, agencies concerned about the environment have not been big fans of diesel, but the new technology that's emerged in the last few years has actually made us big supporters," said Jeffrey R. Holmstead, Environmental Protection Agency assistant administrator in charge of programs to control air pollution. EPA projections show that if diesels accounted for a third of all vehicle-miles traveled in the country by 2020, the nation could save a million barrels of fuel a day and consumers could save more than $20 billion per year.

In Europe, where tax breaks make diesel fuel much cheaper than gasoline, more than 40 percent of all new vehicles are diesel-powered

-- more than double the amount of just five years ago. European carmakers would like to expand that market into North America, but they are worried that Japanese rivals Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co. are cutting them off with a different type of alternative power technology -- gasoline-electric hybrids.

So the Europeans are making their move. In April, Mercedes-Benz plans to offer its first U.S. diesel product since 1999, the E-320. This fall, DaimlerChrysler AG plans to begin selling a diesel version of its Jeep Liberty SUV. And Volkswagen AG, which has been offering diesel-powered passenger cars here since 1996, this year plans to introduce diesel versions of its Passat sedan and its Touareg SUV.

If those products do well, more will probably follow. "For us the biggest thing is how well the Liberty is going to be received. I think that will dictate what our moves are," said Jim Weidenbach, manager of small diesel applications at the Chrysler Group.

DaimlerChrysler sells diesel versions of its PT Cruiser, Jeep Grand Cherokee and minivans in Europe, and could bring any or all of those to the United States if the Liberty catches on, Weidenbach said.

"The big problem is going to be consumer acceptance," said George Peterson, president of AutoPacific, an auto industry consulting firm in California. "The experience most Americans have had with diesel passenger cars is negative."

That experience was shaped during the energy crisis of the late 1970s, he said, when General Motors Corp. slapped diesel engines into some of its cars and did not engineer them well. Today, surveys show that about 2 percent of consumers are interested in diesel products, Peterson said.

"Americans aren't going to go with diesel," said Art Spinella, who tracks auto consumer attitudes for CNW Market Research in Oregon. "Every time we do a survey of alternatives to gas engines, diesels come up at the bottom. It's got a bad reputation and GM is to blame. . . . Americans are very cautious about anything that burned them once before."

GM still puts diesel engines in its Chevrolet Silverado heavy-duty trucks and in nearly half of its vehicles sold in Europe. But the company is cautious about jumping back into the technology in North America, said Charlie Frees, GM's executive director of diesel engineering. Gasoline prices here are so low that fuel savings take years to offset the higher up-front cost of buying a diesel vehicle, Frees said. And though diesel engines are far cleaner today than 20 years ago, they have a hard time meeting U.S. emissions standards, which are stricter than those in Europe, he said.

Diesel engines put out less carbon dioxide than gasoline engines, but emit more soot. The advent of cleaner diesel fuel in 2006 will help fix that, but engineers are still figuring out how to make diesel engines clean enough for the tough federal air standards that will hit in 2007.

California and the four other states that follow its toughest-in-the-nation clean-air guidelines -- New York, Maine, Massachusetts and Vermont -- ban the sale of new diesel vehicles. And a study last month by the Union of Concerned Scientists found that "the high up-front cost of diesel engines and emission controls allows improved gasoline vehicles to deliver energy security and global warming benefits at a lower cost."

Ford Motor Co., which sells about 200,000 diesel work trucks a year, is waiting to see how both technology and the market for diesel develops before rolling out mainstream products, spokesman Joe Koenig said.

For those who are introducing products this year, the key is working to educate drivers that the technology has changed, said Michael Bernacchi, marketing professor at the University of Detroit, Mercy. "But that education has to be driven by the public really understanding the value of diesel -- and I don't mean the value to the environment. I mean the value to performance," Bernacchi said.

Mercedes, Jeep and Volkswagen all have mounted unusual marketing campaigns for their diesels that concentrate on getting people into their products and building word of mouth instead of pasting images all over SuperBowl TV spots. All have participated in alternative-fuel events, such as the Bibendum Challenge rally in California, and have brought their diesels to Washington to give lawmakers and members of the media a chance to sit behind the wheel.

Mercedes, which promotes the E-320 as the only luxury diesel in the United States, also is counting on a core group of enthusiasts who prefer diesels because the cars have been known to last for 300,000 miles or more and because they can drive 700 miles without refueling, company spokesman Jim Resnick said.

Jeep plans to put its diesel Liberty at the Lollapalooza rock festival later this year, and to feature it at the company's annual Camp Jeep retreats for owners and their families held in California and Virginia. It also had the diesel Liberty at the Winter X Games, where extreme snowboarders and their fans could take it for a ride.

Volkswagen, until now the Lone Ranger of the diesel passenger car movement in the United States, is trying to build its customer base slowly. The company encourages its dealers to put customers in turbo diesels without telling them what they're driving, only revealing the truth after they've been impressed by the performance, said Volkswagen spokesman Tony Fouladpour. "I know it sounds like an oxymoron to say 'high-tech diesel engine,' but it's not. We have some of the most sophisticated engines around," he said.

The trick is getting Americans to believe that in sufficient numbers to make diesel profitable to the manufacturers. Volkswagen's best-selling diesel model is the New Beetle, with a fuel-efficiency rating -- about 50 miles per gallon -- and sales volume -- nearly

57,000 last year -- that are both comparable to Toyota's Prius hybrid.

"There are barriers to acceptance of diesel in the U.S., and they've got to be overcome," said Dennis Fitzgibbons, director of public policy for Chrysler. "The most clever marketing campaign in the world can't overcome a bad real-world experience."

© 2004 The Washington Post Company
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than 40 percent of all new vehicles are diesel-powered

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Bill Ditmire

snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Bill Ditmire) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m03.aol.com:

Open up 5% of ANWR and the $3.00 in taxes goes away.

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ArchieLeach

That's a far more optimistic appraisal of ANWR production than even George and Dick project!

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Bill Ditmire

How's this: get liberals and regulatory agencies out of the energy business and gas will be below $1/gallon again.

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Stan de SD

nd gas will be below $1/gallon again.

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Bill Ditmire

How's this .... stop WASTING THE WORLDS FUEL as fast as possible. Make it $5 a gallon and come to grips with reality.

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Miro

Most of the gas and oil leases issued by the Clinton along the Florida Gulf coast were revoked by the Bush family. That energy could be online much sooner than ANWAR. Want to take a guess at why they were revoked?

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Chas Hurst

This must be a troll? You really think we are going to see lower oil prices when the energy companies have friends in the White House like George W, slick Dick and Mrs Rice (Chevron has named a super tanker after her). Well at least Dick Cheney puts that million dollars a year he receives from Halliburton as a consulting fee into a blind trust.

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VCopelan

snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Bill Ditmire) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m24.aol.com:

Ken Lay and Enron gave more money to Clinton/Gore than to Bush/Cheney. Look it up if you don't believe it.

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ArchieLeach

We'll take you word for it. And we will add... they sure didn;t get their money;s worth from Clinton!

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Bill Ditmire

If you are a human activity (CO2) caused "global warming" believer and think that diesels are better than otto cycle engines in that regard, you might want to think again. Read:

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snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Bill Ditmire) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mb-m18.aol.com:

I don't know... the hanky-panky started under Clinton's watch, but they got busted under W.

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ArchieLeach

Best way to make sure adequate fuel is available is to let the market do it. Best way to make sure we don't have any is to get the government involved.

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Stan de SD

Guess how much of that money you pay at the pump is taxes?

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Stan de SD

We had better review. They STILL haven't been busted- their pyramid scheme collapsed. The Feds had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do anything. They are still closer to bagging Martha Stewart than Ken Lay.

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Bill Ditmire

I don't have to guess because in my State the amount of State and Federal tax is posted on the pump. However, those taxes don't account for current increases in fuel prices. Despite the State and Federal taxes on fuel, we still have some of the lowest fuel prices in the world. I'm sure fuel prices are lower in a place like Saudi Arabia. Perhaps you would like to live there? That's not to say they would not have lower fuel prices if we had an administration without energy industry people in it.

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VCopelan

Until you let the left-wing socialists impose their "energy policy" on us...

Fuel prices are a function of supply vs. demand. We have plenty of oild in the ground that is kept artificially off the market for various reasons...

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Stan de SD

The last president with an energy policy was Jimmy Carter. When is the left wing going to impose it's energy policy. While Dubya is president? Or next year?

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Chas Hurst

Just an observation about "oil men" and left-wing vs. right-wing: Al Gore's family fortune is in Occidental Petroleum. (Don't believe me? Do some homework.) I don't think he would have been any better or worse than the current prez, BUT he probably would've manipulated things to his advantage too (and we'd still be having this conversation). Perhaps instead of Iraq, we'd be invading Columbia today (ostentsibly for the "war on drugs", but actually to save Occidental's pipeline down there)..... something like that. I'd love to see some sweeping legislative changes and better quality representation (I'm speaking of the Federal level in particular, in this case).

The problem: Repulicans and Democrats are essentially the same party now.

The Solution: Vote another party.

Two points on this and I'm done: - I'm not going to suggest which one to vote-- look at your ideals; consider what kind of world you'd like to live in, examine the other political parties --and choose one yourself. - Don't give me that "throw your vote away" baloney. There are a LOT of non Repub/Demo officeholders at local levels of gov't (a few in state legislatures and at the national level). Your vote does matter!

Be well.

-- Opio

P.S. -- My swipe at an energy policy designed to protect corporate financial interests (entangled with incredibly poorly handled foreign policy) is to get an MB diesel (had it less than a year!) so that I can run locally produced biodiesel. I'd like to make some myself one of these days.

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