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Hi,

I know there is a new mini group but it seems to get very little traffic and
there is a lot of new mini stuff on here so...

I'm looking for help with a recurrent problem with my gf's 2002 Cooper.  It
continually shows the airbag warning light and every time it goes back to
the dealer they apparently replace some clips under a seat which cures it
until it is valeted again (we suspect that some muppet with a vacuum cleaner
attachment breaks them...).

Has anyone experienced the same?  Does anyone know the location of the part
that is being being broken?  And has anyone re-engineered it so that it
doesn't happen again?

Many thanks

CAS



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This is not an unusual fault,
other manufacturer's suffer with the same fault,
its a faulty wiring harness,connecting the seat to the ECU, it tells the ECU
that the seat is occupied and to deploy the airbag if in accident,
usually when there is constant seat adjustment due to various drivers, this
causes a bad connection, this is then logged as a fault in the ECU memory,
this is then displayed on the dash as airbag malfunction,
it sounds like the dealer just cleans the connection, then resets the ECU by
wiping the memory,
the next time the seat is adjusted ,the light comes back on,
the dealer is obviously NOT fixing the fault, he's just resetting the ECU,
Fitzy



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Oh, by the way,,,, be prepared to get flamed,
Fitzy




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Many thanks for the sensible reply.  I suspect that they are probably
dislodging something when they valet the car...

CAS



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 I suspect that they are probably
 dislodging something when they valet the car...
either by moving the seat or the nozzle from the vacuum disturbs the
connection,
The dealer knows what's wrong and also knows what to do to re set the fault,
but I don't think there is a service bulletin with a successful repair
procedure,,, or they are not following the correct procedure
I could be wrong ??
try a different dealer, or contact the manufacturer by letter, address
should be in the back pages of your service handbook
HTH
Fitzy



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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:11:55 -0000, "CAS"


So us it.


....wanker. Just because other people spam this group with their
new-Mini crap you think it is ok for you to do so? There is a
newsgroup for the BMW thing. If the newsgroup is crap, that only
reflects the car, doesn't it? Don't keep coming here with your
problems. You bought it, you live with it.

Regards, David Betts
davidb@minilist.org
The Mini Gallery:
http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334

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David Betts pulled a wax crayon from his bottom a scribbled thus :

You really need to take a chill pill dude......



Why are you so angry and so full of hatred to someone who doesn't buy the
same car as you ?



Have you ever been to see a psychiatrist ?



Did you have a particularly harsh upbringing ?



Can't you just learn to get along with your fellow man and woman and put
your predjudices to one side ?



Commonly known as growing up and putting your playground pissing competition
to bed once and for all.



I think you'll find that behind the cars people are just people, you know
what, you might even get along with them if you met them in a social
gathering without the cars present !



Feel free to flame away David, its the usual response, but I do worry about
someone with so much pent up anger.



--
Cheerz - Brownz
http://www.brownz.org/



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I did that too, you'll also note that I didn't cross post it.


Yup, I enjoy it and its good for the heart.  There are those who say they do
and those who lie...


Nope, that's why I put a nice friendly little note saying why I was posting
here as well as the other one.  By the way you might want to check the
definition of spam.


Nope, it reflects the fact that the model is new and most people take them
back to the dealer under warranty.  There aren't enough of them out of
warranty to have gained the kind of DIY support network of more established
models.


Nope, I didn't.  I'm just a net-head car nut trying to help my GF save a bob
or two.  And while we're at it, you make out that I am/we are unhappy with
it which couldn't be further from the truth.


Nope, no regards at all.  You are quite clearly an old-mini bore with a
narrow mind and a very sad outlook on life.  FWIW I used to own an old mini
or two and my GF used to have an old style Cooper (although one of the more
recent Rover versions rather than a 'proper' one) and fortunately most of
the old mini drivers and enthusiasts we've spoken to have been friendly,
interested and enquisitive about the new BMW mini rather than rude, arrogant
biggots like yourself.

If the form here is that of "old mini only", tell me so without insults and
flames.  I'm guessing that you are sat there hiding behind your ADSL
connection thinking yourself all big, important and clever.  You fool no one
but yourself...

CAS



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When driving around in my 1989 Mini I get lots of friendly waves from fellow
Mini owners and quite often smiles from Bini owners but I have never been
tempted to stick two fingers up at them.

On the other hand I have never been tempted to ask questions about
connecting to Karoo using Fedora with my Speedtouch modem just because I
didn't get an answer on the Karoo.Linux newsgroup.

I personally quite like the Bini and would not object if my wife wanted one
as a replacement for her aging Rover. I own and love 2 Minis but I also have
a passion for  RS Fords especially the MK1 Escorts but I would not dream of
posting questions about them on this news group.

I agree with the sentiment regarding not posting to this newsgroup, but not
how it was said, it is so easy to be rude, but quite difficult to express
the same opinion politely.

I suggest that the correct newsgroup should be used as if everyone had this
attitude the whole newsgroup thing would collapse in disarray. A useful
alternative for UK Bini owners to cross post on may be
uk.rec.cars.maintenance.

I hope none of the above offends anyone as that is not my intention.

Peter

www.wannop.co.uk





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Well Said
Fitzy




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Well said TJ!


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Well who's giving insults and flames now CAS?  And sorry mate as far as most
of us are concerned the issigonis Mini is the only Mini we're interested in.
I mean BMW can call it's hatchback whatever they like, but it isn't a Mini
and never will be.

Taffy



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I totally and utterly agree with Taffy,
there is only one mini for me, and there will only ever be one mini,
regardless of what BMW say and do with badges,
never the less I gave advice on a defect affecting the very car we don't
recognise, because its easier to give a civil reply and pass on information,
than to get in to the cut and paste slanging mach arguments that we are
witnessing now,
To quote Tim in NZ, "if its not a mini its just traffic"
Fitzy
 



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I don't see what the hoopla baloo is all about anyways.

Again this group is named alt.minis, not alt.Austin.minis

OP, hop on over to http://northamericanmotoring.com  for all your MINI needs.



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What? Not Austin Mini...you must be American....

not all Minis where built by Austin, and not all Minis are Coopers or Cooper
S......

but all Cooper & Cooper S are both Minis and either Austin or Morris.....

me think that your ignorance is showing LOL



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Tim don't be a stupid prick.

You are not the one to give me a lecture on Minis, what I used was just an
example but I should have adjusted for the close minded fucktwits like you
and spelled it all out.

Numbnuts.

BMW MINI COOPER rocks.



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"Numbnuts"

name says it all :-)

Steve.



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BMW mini cooper (not deserving of capitals) PANTS

k


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arghhh thaks Fitzy....does that mean Im nealry famouse now being quotedon a
NG?

By the way, the Wheels went onto the Jem last weekend at last!

oh and If Lis decided she wanted a BINI, I'd go looking for a doctor to get
her certified LOL...not becuase as many think that they are crap or
otherwise...but becuase they are to bloody expensive and not that well
made....

down here in NZ we can buy a Subaru Impretsa for 1/2 the money of a BINI, or
even better still the New Renault Clio RS183.....more power, better
brakes/handling/styling/ finish etc etc and about 15 grand cheaper!

but I'll stick to my wee collection of Mini Cooper/Cooper S's thank you.....

becuase....

"if it ain't a Mini its just traffic!!"



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