ABS is now mandatory

Amen brother, we are the new church of the free men.

no twas a long long time before that - stop lights in the 1920's as I don't recall and maybe something about a speedo.

and crash hats on motorbikes, don't matter how old the bike or rider is or how long they predate the law you still gotta wear one.

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Three fine examples of living life on the edge :-)

Peter

Nah ... hardly amazing amongst quality cars. (Bmw/Merc/Volvo/Saab/Audi).

Bloody amazing amongst some. (Ford/Vauxhall/Rover/Citroen/Peugoet/Nissan).

Bloody miricle on: Austin Rover.

Yes, and it's been suggested before as a sort of extreme example.

Driver mortality goes up but death / injury to passengers or pedestrians / other road users goes down. One major issue is that the person braking / stopping too hard may well not be at fault.

I think it makes the point well, that safety devices in cars like airbags and ABS don't necessarily reduce accidents or increase safety overall.

Yeah, and make motocyclists ride bollock naked. Bet they'd be a bit more careful then. Plus, we'd get to see just how big most big mouthed biker's knobs really are. (c:

On a serious note, I think if there was good self cancelling indicators available for bikes, they'd save a good few accidents a year.

Douglas

exactly my point :)

with the 4wd you don't really need it as much the rear wheels will slow down the fronts and it's a lot more stable if you do lock up the fronts though you do tend to kill the transfer box though :)

Scary stuff.

I'd hope that the compulsory ABS would fail safe, not take out the brakes altogether. If not, there will be a huge increase in insurance for those cars that did induce brake failure... Self regulating, I think...