Decision time...

mini or astra hmm i'd say new astra myself as i REALLY hate the dash in the mini it's just to....... round

#re-configure the solar matrix in parallel for endothermic propulsion

Astra: 3.94ppm service, 12.9 fuel, 34.7 depreciation. Mini cooper S: 3.14 / 12.19 / 24.86 - so should cost less to lease

Not got the skoda listed. But you could get its big brother

VW Phaeton W12 LWB 4 seat 173ppm depreciation, 6.3 ppm servicing, 22.09ppm fuel... every mile is costing you over two quid...

Yeah, but every mile would be great.

Or you could wait another 6-7 years, then every mile would cost a *lot* less, plus you'd have the knowledge of whether or not they go wrong much, and would be worth shelling out on.

They are really that good, from the inside easily as nice as an S class or a Lexus, nicer than a 7 series. Mate had one on loan while his audi was farked - very very civilised.

Gonna be worth 10 grand after 3-5 years I reckon... good news for the rest of us - VW providing us with two cracking oddball cars with stunning value loss - the Passat W8 and the Phaeton W12.

Mini, boot, pushchair. Hang on while I pick my self up off the floor. The boot of the mini struggles to take £50 worth of shopping. It is a lot of fun though but you need to turn off the intrusive traction control. Don't get the 17" wheels if you can avoid it now, the 15" without run are a more pleasant drive.

Lol, my wife and I have had six original Mini's between us so that's what I was thinking, but they come with all sorts of child-friendly stuff e.g. ISOFIX as standard, MINI child seats as accessories etc., so you'd hope they made enough room for the pushchair. It's one of those folding jobbies, not a huge travel system or anything. I'll give it a test tomorrow and see what happens.

Looking at the MINI website, they come with 16" X-lite wheels now, which look like TSW Venoms. I won't be going with 17's. Heh, the Astra comes with

18's...

and get the supercharger not that wimpy NA shit :)

you can get the new vectra with 19's and i have to say with 19's in black it does look pretty pimped :)

Yea but the 15's look s**te in comparison.

The mini is gonna be a lot more fun, and probly feel quicker. But, the boot is lame.

*cough* unsprung weight.

*shock* Dervy considering Superleggeras 'cos they're light... even though they're 15"...

No idea why unsprung weight makes a difference to the looks :)

^^^^^^

ITYM 's**te'.

Have you considered the Suzuki Swift instead of the Mini? Looks similar but doesn't have the dickheads driving them. I'm not sure if they have one as fast as the cooper s yet though? I'd probably go for the Astra if I were you though.

John

Depends on the wheels Racing Hart CP-F Tune R in 15" look nice with a little lowering:

Why stop with a supercharger?

That said I have a Hartge modified charger and spare cylinder head lying round at the moment, bit of playing round should up the power nicely and I could use the stock Eaton charger on the G40 (currently one in the UK and a kit in development).

Depends really, some 15s look amazing! BBS RS for instance:

Ronal Racing:

ATS Classic (i'm desperately searching for some of these 2nd hand for my golf):

Porsche Cookie Cutters:

Keskin KT1:

Astra.... but wouldn't something bigger suit you better?