LPG vs Diesel..

You can get the conversion kits for just a few hundred squid on ebay. So its more like 3 months payback... Provided you or a friend are remotely competant with a spanner.

Do you realise that LPG and LPG used for home heating is the same stuff? And its cheaper. Not that I would do that of course.

I would if I could get away with it heh. Just to clarify, I'm never going to own diesel or LPG, I just thought the LPG regs here might find it interesting, and I didn't think they'd get to see it as none of them strike me as Evo readers hehe!

I worked out that if I gassed the Aero, with what I get to the gallon=20 (lower thanks to the injection rather than aero box), and about =A31200=20 for a professional installed sequential kit fully installed, at the=20 price petrol was 2 weeks ago, it would take me under a year to pay. Now=20 at 3p a litre higher, even less, and in another 6 months who knows.

--=20 Carl Robson Audio stream:

I've just found a local outlet at 48.9 / litre.

Be warned though, unless you have a BFO tank, range is crap.

I get 32 litres in mine, this lasts me around 210 miles.

You have to be cool about chucking 15 to 17 quid worth in every 200 or so miles.

I imagine something like a rangey would need some serious fuel bunkering.

I worked out that if I gassed the Aero, with what I get to the gallon (lower thanks to the injection rather than aero box), and about £1200 for a professional installed sequential kit fully installed, at the price petrol was 2 weeks ago, it would take me under a year to pay. Now at 3p a litre higher, even less, and in another 6 months who knows.

Of course not :-)

Hey, do you mind dropping me a line to expand on what exactly you're on about? (circumcise my email address)

Il do it here.

Heating fuel is cheaper - less tax. And not legal to use in a road vehicle. But they dont put red dye in LPG that lives in your home heating Calor tank. Decant it...

Why bother about talking in private?

Get an LPG home gas system from the likes of Calor - big tank, slightly different boiler/stove, some pipework. Quite common for those of us off mains gas.

Put a bit of extra plumbing in so you can fill your car from it.

It's not taxed as road fuel, so it's cheaper than autogas.

Of course it's illegal - and the excise duty end of HMRC aren't noted for being nice. And somebody might notice somebody putting an LPG tank into a house which has mains gas, since mains gas is cheaper so there's no point in doing that unless you're up to something dodgy. And the extra plumbing would be a bit of a giveaway. And you need the land to put the tank on.

But apart from that...

cheers, clive

Heh. It's a lot of hassle to go through, as I've oft-thought before. What I really need is some sort of FloGas type depot who'd let me come in and fill up, but whose main business isn't small retail customers, and would therefore sell the stuff a reasonable amount cheaper than the average petrol station. I'm thinking around 47-48p/litre instead of the 60p or so/litre most places charge. I don't reckon that's *too* optimistic given that a fair few ASDA stores charge 51.9 for it. Thing is, it'd only work if I had a reasonable size tank (250 litres or so), and even then, only if said filling place was reasonably local.

I vaguely remember reading on some site or other about there being a fair few independent people selling LPG at the pump that are only the domain of those in the know. Anyone got any rough sort of idea about how much cheaper these guys would be compared to a regular petrol station?

I think I'll stick to the petrol station I've been recently using for the time being - 58.9 minus a seemingly neverending 4p/litre discount voucher from the previous time you filled up there....

Yup. You don't think I bought a petrol for the fun of it, do you?

Well, okay, because I don't trust the Fiat 1.9 TiD diesel... :)

It's widely known that the only issues with these engines are caused by the GM electrical systems attached to them.

Lanarkshire calor centre.

Hardly handy for you right enough.

To me, it doesn't matter to me if the faults behind the early 1.9 are caused by sun spots, whale hunting or rubber dog poo, though.

Later ones are more reliable and all have a great engine for what it is.

It's only cheaper in bulk delivered to a tank. The standard take off from a domestic LPG tank is vapour only, so not much use for transfer to a vehicle. The tanks are (usually) the property of the company delivering the fuel, so any unauthorised mods to add a transfer pump are going to attract some attention.

The Exploder can take an underslung 100 litre tank, Range Rovers vary dependign on model but miost can take a tank of similar size. What I really, really hate are the conversions that put a 100-150 litre tank in the load space. It ruins one of the points of having a large 4x4 - load carrying.

Isn't that quite good? I get about 180 miles to £45 of V-Power in the Corrado.

And how else could you get it???

The standard take off

But most have little "taps" in the ends with a screw valve to check levels and these can be used for decanting. You are not in a rush at home.

so not much use for transfer to

Like the tanker driver is a going to notice or care...

Plus more conection options... Connect to the drain in the bottom. Easiest. Or tell the instalation guys that you want to fill a plumbers bottle or whatever. Let them fit you a small valve. Or take the vapour and chill to a liquid, with a heat exchanger in your deep freeze. Or just drill it and tap it before the first fill. etc

Its worth it.

At least a fuel strike or a bomb at the fuel refinery wont stop you driving.

In cylinders, which are far easier to get the liquid out of, but which cost more than the price of autogas.

Tanks are subject to annual inspection by the owner, and that won't be the tanker driver.

For central heating? You have to be joking or living in a garden shed.

Well in a previous life I was a heating engineer and so was my dad and 3 brothers. And any sort of serious inspection is news to all of us. And remember you are buying the fuel, if you wish to have a means of decanting it into bottles to heat lambs, barns or your workshop its NOT illegal...