minitest - GS450h

What about the *Cupholders*, man? We need the nitty gritty!

and is the dash an STD?

Was too busy overtaking. Lots.

yes.

Too bloody right, that's a s**te review.

It doesn't give any details about what it would be like if you're sat in traffic on the M42 with your boss and you both have a large cup from Coffee Nation.

If I were stuck in traffic on the M42 with my last boss I'd be looking for the "passenger eject" button, not the cupholder.

I have to confess that IME the best cupholder for a large Coffee Nation Latte (four sugars) is the one in the Renault Laguna Mk2.

VW Golf Mk4 ones are crap, cos if you use the AC the most effective vents are the ones that point straight at the cupholders. Hold the cup well enough, but I want my coffee at roughly 500 deg C, not chilled by the feckin' aircon to "tepid within seconds".

And a boot full of servers ?

Heh.

My solution is likely to solve both issues.

BMW 520d SE. It appears that, though they're technically the next grade above me, they're actually little more per month to lease than a

3-series.

Which will be why the Motorways are full of them. Yes, they are now ubiquitous, but that probably means that everyone who 'user chose' one came to a pretty similar conclusion to you.

Obviously, I won't be having one myself, because when I opted out, it was a one way ticket. With my employer, once you opt out, you don't get back in, but I would have a 520D in a minute. Maybe in ten years time :-)

Boss has one. It really is the nuts for such an understated package. But he is gutted, he is going to have to sell it as they have just bought a rescue greyhound and the car isn't very dog friendly.

Boot is crap in a 450h. Most it is motors and batteries.

Looks a bit like a Jap. copy of a Pisshat.

I can't think of any reason why I (personally) would pick a 320d over a

520d. It's a much more complete package.

It isn't that I dislike the 3, but the 3s problems are arguably within the range, being the 1-Series* and 5-Series.

*The majority of 3-Series buyers don't care for packaging or rear seat room; the 1-Series cuts the gloss and gives you the mechanical specification.

Hmmmm.

The 3 series is significantly better specced and built than the 1 series.

Although I believe the 'phase 2' versions are better, but my local dealer didn't have a phase 2 120d to show me.

Convert to LPG, I keep being told by a mate to ditch the Derv for a Prius on LPG.

Both felt as well screwed together to me - but as I say, the 1-Series removes the gloss and gives you the same specification.

D'oh - mechanical specification...

Wonder what the tax would cost ? Prius is already low, alternative fuel knocks it down again. It may actually be a freebie for road tax.

Anyway, I have actually considered this very idea for SWMBO.