OT: phones

Except if we look in 1 to 2 years time, when both have required the use of

2nd mortgages to keep them going (and don't say you can get a cambelt for the turbo for £500 now, that is NOT cheap :) ), as the Fiat's needed a cambelt and clutch, and the Alfa has just died for no apparant reason, which turned out to be that the oil hdn't been checked and it had used it all in 2 weeks :)

I like the Hyundai :)

Well, obviously, looking after an Italian coupe with near-supercar performance is going to cost more than running a Korean coupe with an engine nicked from a family saloon. However, the long-term residuals of the Alfa / Fiat are much better than those projected for the Hyundai, which will more than cancel out the extra running costs.

BTW, I haven't heard anything to suggest that the turbo is the Fiat is any more fragile than any other turbo, and the 5-pot lump is strong. It's just expensive to change the cambelt (but it only needs doing every

63k miles).

As for the GTV, they're pretty reliable, especially in V6 form.

You wouldn't if you sat in one. You can see why they're relatively cheap to buy new - the dash seems to be made out of the same plastic as my cheap Matsui VCR.

I looked at them when my 33 blew up last year, but I could't bring my self to buy something with such poor build quality and flimsy plastics.

They're nigh on £20k new! Plus, this one is nice blue, with nice alloys and leather, and shiny bits, and 12% more BHP :)

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Ron

Nope, all networks are the same these days. They're all 99.9999% - I've been with all four, and never once had a problem.

Fairy snuff. Waiting for my new V500 to turn up now, which is on Orange so i dont care anyway :)

Gimme a break, especially after the stuff i've heard about the fiat.

I have personallly been in the 16v coupe, which would be the best comparison to the hyundai (Insurance on the turbo is an absolute joke for me), and the interior is "considerably" more dated and cheap nasty (and rattled like a bitch on the particular one I was in) than mine. Handling felt about the same, though the fiat does have the LSD which was nice.

Oh and for me personally *I think* its absolutely hideous and the majority of people I ask think the same. Though I also know people who think it looks very nice.

Alfa, my taste again but I think its very ugly as well. Insurance is alot more, plus I can't afford stupid maintanence... and I think its gonna have more than 37k miles, though I can't actually be arsed to check autotrader!

No more so than in its class...

It was 7k:-)

Might be 3rd world, but it still looks nice and drives well.

I was using the difference in name over the audi to the VW as the same comparison as buying a coupe over saloon. You essentially don't get anymore, except a different image.

$400, and at the current exchange rate that aint too shabby at all.

I like you dan:-)

Andy add me snipped-for-privacy@clanpfr.com it says you dont have a passport or sumit :)

Ron

Dan, get your coat man - you've pulled!

Richard

That's not really the case. Most of the cars that compete with the Hyundai have far classier interiors.

IIRC the last time I peered at one, there was visible glue on the vinyl near the heater vents.

Richard

Hmmmmmm...