OT:Spamfiltering <lol>

Err why not simply go for freeware? If it's for company use and if security is important to you then you should be using MS stuff at all, really. Linux + qmail as your MTA then pick any of the freeware add-ons for qmail to perform mailfiltering.

It's that easy. I use the setup for me and five users, one of my clients uses the same for over 4,000 users and they are (supposedly) a MS-only workplace, but even they aren't daft enough to use an insecure (broken) Microsoft mail server as their first line of defence against the rest of the world.

Because the company wants backup I spose, I'm an MCSE so tend to stick with what I know etc etc.

Linux has its uses though

Ron

I agree with Steve`s comments on this.

Steve Firth wrote:

I only have a few users and have to use a M$ box, but I use the free Mail Enable

server with the Spamahaus SBL and new XBL DNS blacklisting. I have found it STUNNINGLY effective even without the Spamassassin filtering which filters the emails that actually manage to get delivered to the mailboxes.

Oh, forgot to add I use

to block all connections from Brazil, China, Korea, Nigeria and Russia. I will probably add a few more but they are probably blocking as much spam as Spamhaus.

Gareth

Typical *nix user. :) :)

a well setup MS site is pretty secure :) its fair to say that a basic unix, linux setup is not overly secure.!

Stu

hehe the old linux/unix vs Windows affair :)

They both have there advantages and disavantages.

Personally I like windows, but dont like companys charging 2 different amounts for the same product because we live in england

Two reasons. One, because almost (almost) all of it simply isn't as good. Two, because the rest of the world uses Microsoft products, and it makes life SO MUCH easier if you do the same.

Then you'll keep all your Microsoft software patched upto date - ditto your AntiVirus software - and security isn't a problem. I support 500 PCs at work, on an 8MB net connection, and we have no problems with security at all.

Ha ! That's a far too sweeping statement. Many places of work, mine included, simply couldn't operate without Microsoft stuff.

Why ?

Once I've added on the cost of training our 3500 users to use a different set of OS/software, then the "freeware" stuff costs MORE than the Microsoft stuff ! And it's not as good.

No.

It's not.

We use Microsoft's mail server. It's not broken, the security is fine provding you keep it patched upto date, and we have no problems whatsoever with our "first line of defence against the rest of the world".

Agreed.

But, the fact that EVERYONE else uses Windows, means the choice is pretty much a formality !

Agreed.

How big's your company ? If you're on any of Microsoft's Select/Partner style schemes, you'll already have Office 2003. The built-in AntiSpam stuff in Outlook 2003 is pretty good. Give it a go before you shell out money - I've found it works just fine.

Yup same here nom, no problems with MS products, the people who do have problems stick there head in the sand and leave unpatched, unmanaged servers, the "its been fine for 6 years"brigade

you know who I mean

If MS products didnt need patching/ looking after I would be out of a job, I also look after Macafee EPO company wide which works great, :)

Ron

Same here :)

theres a harsh comment about how much MCSEs know in there somewere... :>

a well setup MS site is secure compared to a badly set up MS site, compare it to one running *nix, i'm not overly obsesssed with any OS, so long as i can get it doing what i want, how i want i'm happy. However, not getting 0wn3d is something i care about, so if i wanted to, say, serve files, MS products would be a bit counterproductive.

...pi

MS Enterprise stuff - compatible with all new worms

is being able to press 'Next' the extent of the MCSE training, or do they go onto that advanced 'Cancel' stuff as well?

should apologise for the lovely grammar there..

"pi"

i always thought MS operating systems were designed so they could be used by eejits without training? MCSEs a a bit of a rip if ya ask me (unless, like i suspect you did, and get your employers to pay)

"pi"

never had any problems round here that wern't solved with 30mins of tinkering.

"pi"