Er - yes, thats what I said. If I'd been talking about a different engine, I'd have said "Just as the corsa engine has".
Anyway, how is your quest for a modern small non-turbo diesel going?
clive
LOL! that's stupid!
my MR2 says 'Twin Cam 16 Turbo' down the side but that's the only clue really, oh and raised engine vents to the nerdy people and normally badged GT or GT-S. i've got used to the stealthy look, not many MR2 turbo's round my way :)
Oh yeah, short memory, comes with age.
LOL that too, although, it seems that Toyota and Saab must assume very well educated owners because the sticker was in multi language in both, Swedish, English and German, or Japanese, English and French.
Spookily enough, I saw one last week. Noticed it /because/ it had been so long since I'd seen one, particularly a turbo. Used to love them 10 years or so ago, just seems old and slow now (altho I do still like them for some perverse reason).
Well, not really. BMW/Peugeot's new forced-induction lumps are high-pressure. VAG and Ford (inc Volvo etc.) and Subaru and Mitsubishi and Vauxhall (inc SAAB etc.) and Renault all use high-pressure. Alfa's soon-to-arrive V6 Turbo is a high-pressure system.
Hell, I can't think of hardly any mainstream manufacturers who DON'T use high-pressure-turbo systems these days :) Toyota don't, do they ? And Fiat ? And Rover ? And that's about it ?
Er, no I'm not. Read my post again please :)
I repeat - read my post again please :)
LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of cars are Turbocharged these days - read my other post.
What ?
Lack of Turbo is a backward-step - they're hardly likely to become less common !
Nor in any of the Turbo cars I've ever been in ?
I specifically listed both poor-treatment and nice-treatment scenarios, and he went rambling on about how I was assuming they were treated properly ? What sort of sense is that :)
in news: snipped-for-privacy@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, petermcmillan snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com slurred :
...in fact it's impossible. A good 1.4 non-turbo diesel will produce ~90Nm (peak).
brought
I don't know why I said that. I was supposed to say the more miles it's done, not the older it is. That's it now, end of this discussion!
What do you consider High pressure in a modern petrol engine?
The Saab from 84 was running a trim 40 T3 pushing out 12psi The Celica from 90 uses a Toyota CT26, and only makes 8psi max, controlled by the ECU.
The turbo can easily make 14-16PSI, but Toyota chose to make it what I consider a lowblow setup.
This in a normal family turbo saloon/hatch, not the latest thing for the boy racers or rallyslag wannabees.
The message from Sleeker GT Phwoar contains these words:
14psi on my Montego TD.
Conveniently snipped "What do you consider High pressure in a modern petrol engine?" from the start then :)
The message from Sleeker GT Phwoar contains these words:
OOh, yes, sorry.
LOL
Maybe 8-9psi or more ?
And 6-7psi or less, I'd consider low-blow ?
See that is the difference. The old turbo saloons started at arround
10PSI (the old Looney lag/boom monsters like the early beemers and Saabs and Audis) and went up from there.Saabs 7-9PSI car was a light pressure turbo. There wasn't an APC controlling boost, or an IC, so it varied according to atmospheric conditions.
The Celica has over 200BHP from the factory, the Saab had 185, both 2 litre 16v turbos, yet the Celica runs 8PSI max from the Factory, while the Saab ran 12PSI. I think that is why the Saab felt faster. T3 means Lag and then very steep ramp up and higher boost when it came in and a 5.5k redline and 6k hard rev limit. CT26 means very flat boost curve, boost dropping off slightly but another 1500revs to the redline and further to the rev limit. It doesn't make as much boost but it keeps making most of it boost all the way to the redline. Probably if the Celica was limited in the same way as the Saab, it would come out at arround the 170-180bhp mark.
Really must get that MBC sorted.
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