Re: Audi TT / Rover 620ti - V Cool or V Uncool ?

LOL, you misspelled e-b-a-y Nom. (c:

Peter, this is sounding more and more like you should punt the bastard thing while it still runs. Is it really as expensively serious as you're making it sound? Surely some diesel specialist can help you.

Douglas

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Douglas Payne
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Yes, but only in Norfolk. I'll dig out the details if that's remotely useful to you (I don't know where you are)?

Fuck it, just sell the thing before it bankrupts you. BMW timing chains generally out-live the car, if it isn't then something's going horribly wrong....

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Pete

So the thing that's gone horribly wrong is the fact that it's been serviced well enough and often enough that it's still running well when the timing chain's started to give trouble!!!

FWIW I don't think there is a problem with the injector gear, it seems to perform as it should - just a bit concerned about the economy.

Peter

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AstraVanMan

this is where the line "sticking feather up your butt doesn't make you a chicken" seems most apt :)

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dojj

dojj waffled on in a quite bewildering manner to produce...

the 250 BHP 3.2 V6 TT with the twin clutch semi auto thing is pretty rapid though.

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Pete M

on paper its not a lot quicker, but I bet realistically its a much quicker drive, and it probably sounds a great dealer smarter as well. I would really like one.

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Theo

Personally I dont choose cars on what other people think, that would just be shallow :)

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Theo

They are all older ones now, and they al rust round thr rear wheel arch -- caused by condensation due lack of ventillation Honda seem not to believe in giving air a proper extraction vent other than the applogy for one inside boot behind the lefthand rear bumper.

Grow up and take off the the rose tinted blinkers, I suspect if you owned a Lada you would be saying much the same things the 600 is a good and very reliable car and with either the 2.3 or T16 engines a fast car but only marginally less boring to drive than a Granada-Scorpio, it is uninvolving and totally bland in the worst Japanese tradition. I suspect you have never driven a RWD sporting car even a bad one what makes a true drivers isn't straight line speed or horse power or max cornering g force, it is how involving it is to drive.

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AWM

In fairness, that's not going to be especially difficult, though.

I have a jaundiced opinion of the TT because I drove a 225 TT, Fiat Coupe Turbo, Boxster (the original 2.5 litre one) and a 406 V6, 'cos one of the directors wanted "a sports car with about two hundred brake" [sic - he only picked out sporty coupes, heh].

Now don't get me wrong, as an ownership experience, it's either the TT or the Boxster (personally, I'd take the Porsche, but it would be close). But compared to the others, it felt castrated. It had a firmer ride than the others, but didn't feel terribly responsive in the twisty stuff. Okay, the brakes were awesome, and it has bags of acceleration when you watched the speedo, but as a sheer balls-out driving experience, the Fiat ruled the roost (with the Boxster a close second). The Fiat won because it felt brutally quick, savage and indeed quite intimidating, whereas the others were a bit more refined with it. On paper, the Fiat Coupe was also the quickest, but I remember arguing that the TT would be quicker off the line for most people because of the all wheel drive system.

It may be competent, but I was very disappointed with it. It felt like a stiffly set up Golf, which is all well and good if you've driven hatchbacks and saloons, but if you want something that's a sports car, look elsewhere.

Fortunately, the board member saw sense, and went for the Boxster. :)

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DervMan

wrote

I would like a fiat coupe turbo, very nice, limited edition with 6 speed box.

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Theo

Me too. I told him that this was the most extreme car to own, and he'd said he was wanting extreme at the start. However, he did have concerns about owning the car for 12 months, but only being able to drive it for 6, and having a Cinquecento or Punto for the other 6. The benefit of the Porsche was, like the Audi, that it'll be reliable.

He was right. Never had a problem with it!

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DervMan

Oh don't talk such s**te. We're all well aware of the ti's faults and problems and appeal (or lack thereof), and *the positives outweigh the negatives* for the requirements that their owners buy them for.

Now you're talking sense.

Now you're talking s**te again ffs.

I've driven plenty of 200sx's (and my father had an S14), which are a pretty boring amd uninvolving drive for a RWD sporty car.

Who the flying f*ck is talking about it being a "true driver's car". No one here 'defending' it has even remotely suggested it's anything such as that. For a big FWD car it handles _fine_, nothing more, nothing less.

If there was a RWD version in the same vein that I could get hold of for the same price, then I would have done. But unfortunately there isn't. It's just a cheap, well equipped, reliable car that happens to go rather quickly. End of.

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Lordy

About the best summary of it, IMO. Also if you want to spend TT money there is a wide choice of cars most of which are IMO rather more pleasant than the TT which looks like a hunchbacked shoe. I can't see why people get worked up over the TT, although someone I work with is raving over an Audi A3 as opposed to a Golf. Myself I can't see much difference other than badge snobbery.

Anyroad up, brand new TT or secondhand XKR, I know where my money would go and the car has a snarly cat face, not four ashtrays on the grille.

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Steve Firth

Of course..... but I was comparing with similarly priced cars on the used market today.....

You were right in your other post.... 164 V6 would be a much better choice - lovely 24v V6 with bags of torque and power, decent build quality, and tonnes of kit. Not to mention that the 164 shape _still_ looks fantastic even now.

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SteveH

I think you'll find that there's nothing slow about a 525i 24v......

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SteveH

it looks really really nice :) it's like purple, as if you were seeing it at night dark brown almost, but you can still see it's purple :) if i had my digicam with me i'd go and take a few snapos of it

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dojj

yes :) but you forgot to mention that the cars not owned by members of these groups tend to be driven at 10 mph under the limit by very old giffers with tartan runs and nodding dogs :) coming down the A413 the other day i was absolutly hammered off the lights by one, only for the old git driving it to come to an almost stop when he hit 40 mph so off i hooned down the road in my little white van wondering if he had it governed or something :)

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dojj

Badge snobbery, brilliant isn't it. for three grand more than my 4wd Passat cost the bloke across the street got a 2WD Audi A4. I love badge snobbery me. I'm currently trying to get a hold of some Skoda superb badges to replace the VW ones on the Passat.

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Bob Sherunckle

I *do* like the A413 - particularly between Wendover and Amersham, and then from the edge of Amersham to Denham. Lovely quiet road.

Peter

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AstraVanMan

depends if it has VVT or not.

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Theo

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