What's a reasonable price for a replacement Battery?

No you seem particularly incapable of getting it. If you did that the optima would light the lights brighter and for longer and be more dead at the end of it that an inferior standard starter battery due to the fact that it has lower resistance.

However if you compared it to a stock nasty starter battery at say 90 percent discharged it could still start your car. Where the nasty battery would most likely fail even if nowhere near this discharged due to its higher internal resistance.

We can go on forever if you want. You obviously have no clue about batteries.

Yep!

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Yep.

A larger tank holds more petrol - but

Yep. But with a crappy low tech battery the tank can still be half full and the car wont start since its internal resistance wont dump enough current without voltage drop to do so. This is where your attempt at an anology fails. However an optima or almost any AGM battery can do the same trick even when all but empty.

This means that your cheap battery must have double the "capacity" to do the same trick. And I bet you STILL dont get it.

I am wasting my time.

Standard starter batteries are lower in CCA anyway than an equivelent AGM or optima. It would spin that engine over at that voltage without trying. The stock battery cant due to the fact that its internal resistance is such that its voltage drops at these high current levels while trying to crank to the point where it wont start.

Its "fooked" in your words presicely because of the fact that the cars electrics have caused it to lose capacity and cranking amps because standard batteries dont like being discharged much without losing active plate material and the original CCA has deteriorated.

Hence an optima or hawker replacement BECAUSE ITS BETTER!!!

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Burgerman
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She was very unlucky.

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DanB

So? I'd buy the cheap one, who keeps a car long enough to get the benefit? I'm not paying for the next owner of my car to have a good battery when I trade it in after a few years...

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DanB

But an optima or hawker wouldnt have deteriorated over the four years due to the cars natural systems discharging the non deep cycle battery. Plus it would still have had the go to spin it over anyway due to the low voltage drop/internal resistance even though a bit flat. Luck never entered into it. Its why those that know spend the extra.

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Burgerman

That personal choice in action!

And theres nothing stopping you.

The reply was to the "optimas are a con" guy, when clearly its not. AGM batteries are just a dearer but better option! And its not just longevity.

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Burgerman

"Burgerman" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Gotcha.

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Adrian

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What benefits come from them being recombinant?

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Depresion

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Instead of using calcium etc to allow them to be "maintainance free" (no gassing ish while charging) which impacts performance and longevity amongst other things, so pure lead can be used. (And no lead "sponge" coating to fall off as in standard starter batteries!). Pure lead allows better faster charging and discharging and lower internal resistance and so gives improved CCA especialy when discharged a lot. Plus they can be used or tipped upside down and (rolled?) or cut in half without spillage. Useful in motorsport if you are a hooligan... No escaped acid. And lower sulphation rates when less than fully charged.

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Burgerman

But not your GF, obviously.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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