5.0L CAMMER

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Hey bigblack, first lose the all caps. Some folks are sensitive about the use of those.

How's this?

Ford Racing Technology will revolutionize the crate-engine concept when its new 5.0-liter Cammer crate engine becomes available in 2003. Instead of modifying a standard production engine to suit non-stock applications, Ford Racing specifically designed the Cammer to be one of the most technologically advanced crate engines any manufacturer has ever offered.

This high-performance retrofit is an all-aluminum, overhead-cam,

4-valve engine that is a perfect repowering upgrade for vintage Mustangs, street rods, and classic truck projects.

According to Ford Racing Technology engine engineer Andy Schwartz, "The 5.0-liter Cammer delivers a healthy 425-430 horsepower at 6700 rpm. The torque curve peaks with 370 foot-pounds at 4000 rpm."

The 5.0-liter Cammer crate engine is based on the SVT Mustang Cobra's

4.6-liter 4-valve V-8. However, the crate version has several unique qualities and components, including:

Larger cylinders (94mm vs. 90.2mm) for 5.0 liters of piston displacement Flanged cylinder liners Reinforced crankcase web areas Forged pistons

11.0:1 compression ratio Ported heads Higher-lift cams (12mm vs. 10mm) Beehive-shaped valve springs to accommodate the higher lift Modified roller-finger followers Multi-layer steel-insert head gaskets Higher-flow fuel injectors 3-piece cast-magnesium variable geometry intake manifold Higher-flow, dual-cone-spray fuel injectors The 5.0-liter Cammer crate engine will be shipped with a stock Mustang Cobra oil pan and exhaust manifolds. Installation will be eased substantially by a choice of six different 4.6-liter 4-valve modular wiring harnesses being created specifically for the 5.0-liter Cammer crate engine.

"We intend to grow the interest in overhead-cam technology," said Dan Davis, director, Ford Racing Technology. "This is the future for tuners, project-vehicle builders and aftermarket car and truck enthusiasts. There's no reason why a crate engine can't start and perform as well in an aftermarket setting as the engines in production automobiles and trucks do. The 5.0-liter Cammer crate engine will provide top performance, a slick underhood appearance and excellent driveability without the hassles attached to carburetors and distributors."

Patrick '93 Cobra

Well I can think of one real big reason: MSRP $14,995.00. Others: dimensions 39" wide, 37" tall, 35" long, and weight 669 lbs.

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Comparable numbers for a generic 400 hp $3500 iron head Chevy 383 are

26" wide, 27" tall, and 26" long and weight 535 lbs. Subtract 75 lbs for aluminum heads.

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For $15,000 you can build a 700+ hp turbo motor.

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No Shit. I have ~450 for just over $4k. About $10/HP.

Or, $17,000 for a crate Hemi putting out about 650hp. But no a/c pump. :)

-Rich

For $17,500 you can buy my very OT 74 Camaro ready to run. It runs 9.12 @

153 MPH. Runs SC, the dial is 9.18. Have the timing set at 36 to keep it slow. With me in it weight is about 2,530. Calculate that horsepower:)

Al

I get 707. ((153/234)^3 x 2530.) Yikes.

But at $17,500 that's $24 per hp. Scott's Ford has got you beat on dollars/hp. :(

Do you think that Camaro would make a good training car for a beginner? Does it have a/c?

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AC, no problem. I'll take off the Filter One and put on an AC filter:) Good training car? Sure thing, especially if you have some good life insurance. You will have to get an NHRA license. So you get some professional training and a FAA like check up by a doctor. I'm a few months for my 60th birthday, and I can drive it.

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Al

I checked it out. That thing is scary lookin.

Too bad it's a'78; if it were a '75 or older I could street license it in Cali. Atleast the front suspension is on-topic, for a Mustang II anyway. Iguess I could Google this, but what's a "Ron's toilet"?

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(What happened to the "Big" in the sig? Should it be "Skinny Al"?)

I checked it out. That thing is scary lookin.

Too bad it's a'78; if it were a '75 or older I could street license it in Cali. Atleast the front suspension is on-topic, for a Mustang II anyway. Iguess I could Google this, but what's a "Ron's toilet"?

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(What happened to the "Big" in the sig? Should it be "Skinny Al"?)

Yes, I lost 50 pounds:) Ron's Toilet is a fuel injection system. This thing goes down the street fine, on my trailer. It's about 2 inches off the ground.

Al

Since your race car's carrying 3.6 lbs per hp, that's 14 horsepower.

Speaking of 5.0 Cammers (which we were), I just saw on the Barrett-Jackson web site that the Ford Racing Performance Products '65 fb, that was commissioned for last year's SEMA show to introduce the Cammer crate engine, went for $135,000 at the January Scottsdale auction.

like the part in the B-J blurb where they describe the car's HeidtMustang II conversion as giving it "modern handling ability." Yeah,the M II design came out in '75, making it 30 yrs old and only 10 yearsmore "modern" than the OE stuff it replaced. There was also a Boyd Coddington '65 (also an M II conversion) $156,600 but the one I liked best was a restomod with a 377W that pretty muchanyone could build, that went for $42,200.http://www.barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/cardetail.asp?id=180186So maybe there's hope yet for us hobbyists out here with too much moneyin our cars, that if we step it up just that little bit more we mightactually make some money.

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