And yet more bad cell phone news

(CNN) -- A study released Tuesday said drivers who use cell phones -- even hands-free models -- are four times as likely to be involved in wrecks involving a serious injury than are drivers who do not use cell phones.

"There was no safety benefit whatsoever from using a hands-free phone," said Anne McCartt, one of the authors of the study, which was published in the British Medical Journal and paid for by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

Researchers for the institute compared information on 456 crashes with driver cell-phone records and interviewed the crash victims shortly after they were treated in hospital emergency rooms.

"Our findings indicate that laws that still allow drivers to use hands-free devices will not eliminate the crash risk of phone use," said McCartt. "In fact, to the extent that drivers perceive that hand-free phone use is safer, in some sense, these laws could have a detrimental effect if drivers increase their use of hands-free phone use."

Connecticut and Chicago are the latest locales to ban cell phone use while driving unless it's hands-free.

In the study, neither gender nor age affected risk.

The study was conducted in Perth, Australia, which bans driving while using cellular phones that are not hands-free.

McCartt said she had wanted to carry out the study in the United States, but phone companies would not release customer billing records, even with a customer's consent.

Still, she said she saw no reason why the findings would not apply equally to drivers in the United States.

The Cellular Telecommunications & Internet Association, a Washington-based trade group, downplayed the findings, saying the distractions associated with mobile phones are no different from those encountered by drivers who eat or talk with passengers as they drive.

"Hands-free is a matter of convenience, a matter of comfort," said John Walls, vice president of communications for the association. He called for education and heightened awareness about any problems to driver safety that might be posed by distractions. "That's the way to change behavior," he said.

The CTIA contends that following these guidelines can minimize risk:

# Assess whether a given call can wait.

# Do not take notes while driving.

# Do not talk while in heavy traffic.

# If possible, pull off the road and park in a safe location to use a mobile phone.

The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety disagrees, maintaining that its study shows that the simple act of talking on a cell phone while at the wheel significantly raises the risk of a serious crash, and following those guidelines will not lower that risk.

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RichA
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razz

If she actually believes that last statement she's an idiot and shouldn't be conducting surveys. Her results are scientifically useless when drawing conclusions about the United States.

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Sarah Czepiel

You would sure think that there would be no difference between talking to a passenger and a cell, but apparently, there is. I have seen so many drivers do stupid things while on cell phones that I thought about investing in a jammer. At least I could enjoy a meal in a restaurant without being having to listen to, first the f**king phone ring, then 1/2 of the conversation. The only thing that keeps me from buying one, (besides the fact that they are very illegal) is the thought of cutting off someone's call, and having them hit someone (me) while fiddling with their phone. People who can not drive and use a cell phone should be allowed to do either.

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Me

just ban woman drivers and the problem would be solved.....

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jim.gm4dhj

Hubby says: "This test is not relevant here in the US BECAUSE these people live in Australia, therefore they already drive on the wrong side of the road, and are already distracted"

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Kate

hee hee hee... snikker... giggle.... wait.. I need to call my brother on his cell phone and tell him.... let me dig in my purse and get the number, oh DAMN, hot coffee on my lap... shit, I smeared my lipstick, OUCH! Damn! I broke a nail when I tried shifting with the cell phone in my hand, would you hand me my nail file? thanks :)

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SVTKate

Before cell phones, I rarely ran into MORONS driving at 40mph on the highway. Now it's all the time.

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RichA

Several years ago a local man was decapitated while talking on a cell phone to his wife. The dumb nob drove his BMW under the back of a broken down 18 wheeler.

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Sarah Czepiel

Every time I am confronted with a "rude and intrusive use of a cell phone " I take a great interest in their conversation. Last year a woman in a doctors office proceeded to make all her business and personal calls while waiting for her appointment. Of course she was sitting next to me. I turned and started to nod and smile and look genuinely interested in her conversation...which was the last one she made in the office before she went outside to finish the remaining calls. It unnerves them. If they insist on sharing the conversations with the rest of us we can participate too. :)

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Sarah Czepiel

Then you've never driven Rte 128 around Boston or anywhere on the Beltway around DC. :)

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Sarah Czepiel

That's a great idea!

One of my cell phone stories: I was driving back to work one afternoon on a two lane highway, 55 MPH Speed limit. Following a white 1/2 ton Chevy pickup. The guy was going about 45,drifting around the lane quite a bit (Thought he might have been drinking.) The road curved to the left and the guy was drifting toward the center line. Coming the other way was a guy driving a white 2 1/2 ton Chevy truck, also drifting toward the center line. It really looked like they were going to meet, head on, at the apex of the curve. They both had about half of their vehicles across the center line when they simultaneously woke up and jerked their steering wheels to the right, missing each other by scant inches. By this time, I had pulled over and was almost stopped. As the guy driving the big truck passed me going the other way, I saw that he had a cell phone in his ear. I speeded up and caught the Chevy truck ahead of me, and, you guessed it, he also had a cell plastered in his ear. (Cell phone stupidity is not restricted to one particular gender)

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Me

Spike

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Spike

Spike

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Spike

Spike

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Spike

because south of the Equator all the blood rushes to their heads which causes them to do everything ass backwards.

WOW!!!! I bet the lawyers are lining up now to file suits on your behalf.... after all, it the corporations who produced the bad designs which led to your cell using, coffee holding, car shifting, nail breaking which of course leads to emotional trauma.... You just might get that brick driveway yet... : ) Spike

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"When the time comes to lay down my life for my country, I do not cower from this responsibility. I welcome it." -JFK Inaugural Address

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Spike

Damn straight!

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SVTKate

This is what happens when you mix cell phones and driving.

The car was showroom. I was stopped with my left flashers on waiting to make a turn. Weather & visibility clear. Road conditions - dry. Road was flat and straight. Impact - 55 mph from the rear. Reason? Young lady on cellphone. What the hell was so important that it couldn't wait.

It's a horror story. Don't look if you're squeamish.

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Mr.~G.

Great although scary story. :) No stupidity using cell phones isn't limited to one gender. I've seen both men and women do some pretty stupid things. Funny thing though now that I think about it, I rarely see young males driving and using a cell phone. Teen age girls yeah but not the guys, At least in my neck of the woods.

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Sarah Czepiel

Without being on a cellphone, constantly, young women will die. You even see the dopes leaving the theater so they can go talk on their cell phones. I think they should have them surgically implanted in their skulls.

-Rich

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RichA

On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:45:41 -0500, "razz" puked:

For one, a passenger is there and can see a road obstacle ahead and let the driver do his thing before continuing the conversation. In addition, you don't have to diddle with a device in order to talk with a passenger.

-- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

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lab~rat

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