Cobra "blowing away" Ferraris and Porsches on the autobahn in Germany....
You can have all of the HP you want, YOU STILL NEED TO ADDRESS POWER/WEIGHT, AERODYNAMICS, HANDLING & BRAKING. Detroit always FAILS MISERABLY at all four.
This is why a) this ad is based on fiction
b) America STILL cannot build real sports cars
c) YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. A $28,000 Ford is only as good as a $28,000 car can be.
Stop trying to pretend you're getting "value". It does NOT EXIST when you try to compare European or Japanese sports cars to the wannabe crap Detroit churns out every year.
If you are a NASCAR, pls disregard-- as this is WAY over your heads.
Gosh, we haven't seen one of these posts in ages! And from someone who has at least some entry-level automotive knowledge & writing skills, then they used a very eye-catching thread title, caps for good effect, PLUS they crossposted. Well done! Bravo! We'll give you a 7 out of
10 on the ol' meter.
Lots of variables here. To name just three:
1) Model years of Porshes and Ferraris
I saw a [Magnum PI] Ferrari get shut down twice by a certain '87
5-liter LX. :-)
2) Start/end speeds of races
The GT500 is electronically limited to 160mph.
3) Drivers
Soft/slow shifting and starting a race in the wrong gear can make a big difference.
Wild generalization. Hopefully this person will give us some examples and comparisions.
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Detroit stacked up pretty well in a recent Road Track comparision with some Europeon brands. And Detroit destroyed them when price was a factor.
But you got to love it when $28K (GT) or $40K Mustang (Shelby) smokes a higher-priced performance car! Anyone got some stories to tell?
Instead of a $25K Mustang GT you'd rather have a...? (Watch... if they reply the answer will be a car with a price tag over $25K.)
The assumption NASCAR = Detroit or Mustang. Bad assumption. I for one think NASCAR sucks! Plus, Toyota/Japan is going NASCAR.
It's painfully obvious from your post that you haven't gotten with 10 yards of the new Mustang of any stripe.
It's also painfully obvious that you'd have no use for a performance automobile, down on Christian Street in South Philly. You wouldn't know what to do with a real car.
Here's one. Saturday a new Shelby with Nitto ??? very sticky rear tires was able to turn a 13.8 here. A decent SRT4 Neon or Mitsubishi Evolution (One ran 12.8's all day) could feed it lunch:) But the Mustang was beautiful.
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About those Nitto tires. What ever they are, man are they sticky. They were completely covered with pebbles after coming back. We were running brand new Hoosier's, after two passes I touched both tires, the Nitto's were way stickier. So, how long do they last on the street, 2,000 miles?
or Posche on the autobahn. thinking he would draw attention
You're more likely to draw attention with a Mustang on the german Autobahn then driving a Porsche... A Ferrari is a toss-up.
Afterall... Mustangs aren't sold in Europe through the mainstream channels. If you want a Porsche, it's not THAT hard to find a dealer that sells them. Again, Ferrari's are a toss-up.
Mustangs on european roads are more abundant then Ferrari's... But still way less abundant then Porsches.
Meh... I should get my Mustang over the border next summer or so and see what she's capable of :P
What is a 40 year old toyota or subaru worth today I wonder. And which one of the Imports helped to start a Musclecar Industry Revolution? AC was'nt european 40 years ago, and it wasnt imported either.This guy has a right to his opinion but my guess is he hasn't set foot on foriegn soil his short sheltered life.Nor do I believe that he's owned a car without his folks siging for, or just buying it. If he's baseing his outlook on his own experience, then maybe he ought to put down the Video games and find a job to be able to afford a test trive in one.
Yeah, seen it a while ago. Also saw one with the black Stang with the golden strips and two cops hauling the owner off to the bureau... Just not yet :P
I did mean what I said tho. Porsches are one in a bundle here... Mustangs are pretty rare. Ferrari's are arguably much rarer. But that probably also has to do with the pricing.
As cheap as you get a Mustang in the US from the dealer is impossible pricing here. Moreso since it also contains some of the costs for the actual transport to here, aswell as the government raising some taxes on the vehicle (damn them).
Still... Porsche pricing is still higher then the Mustang. And Ferrari just tops it all based solely on the brand 'Ferrari'. The head-turning value of the Ferrari is probably higher then the Mustang, but both outdo the Porsche easily. Porsche's are just around on the road too much to really capture the attention.
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