Getting 110 miles to the gallon (News 8 Austin)

True, your quotes don't change colors like the others do.

I see colors and no colons. OE with QuoteFix. I know, I know. IJDGAS.

:>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:19:16 -0500, WindsorFox-{SS}- :>> wrote: :>> :>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> :>> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:19:10 -0500, "WindsorFox" :>> :>> wrote: :>> :>> :>> :>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> :>> :>

:>> :>> :>> Again, we'll see soon enough. Although I'm curious why you think :>> :>> :>> Progressive Ins. Co. would be part and parcel to a scam. :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>

:>> :>> :> They aren't. Assuming the prize offer is real and not an Internet :>> :>> :>story, they are merely offering a prize for the first car to get

100MPG :>> :>> :>the same as the company(s) that offered "The X Prize" for the first team :>> :>> :>to build a vehicle and go into outer space and back to a safe landing. :>> :>> :>They don't necessarily have anything to do with the participants and he :>> :>> :>will only get the prize when he satisfies their criteria. :>> :>> :>> :>> Common sense at last. :) :>> :>

:>> :> Um, what the HELL is up with your news client? Your replies are the :>> :>only ones on the entirety of groups I read that don't change color for :>> :>quoted text. It's those colons before the > that are throwing it off and :>> :>I've read other people using Agent as well. Is that something you did :>> :>purposefully? :>> :>> Why don't we ask the group? Is anyone else having the same problem as WF :>> with my posts? If not then I have to assume the problem is on your end. :>

:>

:> Trust me it's not on my end, it is only your posts. Even Dwight's :>reply to you comes out correct. Like I said, it has to be the :> in :>front of your quotes instead of > or >>. Dwight may not see different :>quotes in different colors unless he specifically sets Windows mail to :>do that, Gill is using Thunderbird so it does it by default.

I've used the :> forevah, including on this ng. You've used at least two sets of software to post on this thread. Try reconfiguring your OE settings on the software you're using now.

This was not accomplished by an inventor sitting in his basement. It was the result of a lot of compicated engineering and while it accomplished the feat, it was not practical for general use.

Again, not a guy sitting in his garage. This was a multi-million dollar effort. I certainly beleive that a private group can and will launch manned craft into space. Although the current the current private plans for lanuching manned craft into space is more like a super expensive up and down amusement park ride - not a real manned space flight effort.

Again, not a garage inventor. A multi-million dollar effort.

And which garage inventor is leading this charge? Billions are being spent on batteries and other componets needed to make electric cars pratical. Don't hold your breath waitign for some guy to solve the problems in his garage.

No. I betting he can't do either. I think peopel are more likely to beleive big lies than small ones. If he had claimed his miacle Mustang could get 40 mpg and had 300 hp peopel would have either have ignored him, said so what, my uncle can do that, or said he was a crack pot. Instead he told a completely outrageous lie, and News 8 showed up top proclaim the end of the energy crisis - well, as soon as this guy just turns a couple of more screws and gets his patents issued. Wanna bet he has even applied for a patent(s)?

Agreeded.

Ed

engine and says his 1987 Ford Mustang will get 110 miles to the gallon.

it's a simple math trick! He converted his car to E85... so he is only counting the 15% gas when he calculates his MPG... in one of the articles he even talks about "equivalent" MPG... so he is getting 110 MPG of GAS not E85.. and actually if you do the math that way most E85 cars to better!

Well, at least we agree on something. :0)

The activities mentioned were not done in a basement on the cheap. They were not intended to be identified as such. The activities were cited as things humans have done (perhaps with the help of advanced alien civilizations) starting with just an idea. A lot of inventing comes as unplanned/unexpected side developments. Anathesia was a good example.

Then you have the bicycle. Someone invented it, and probably not with big money in an R&D facility. Then along comes someone else who drags one into his garage and figures out how to motorize it. Again, not with a lot of funding and a fancy lab.

You can go back through history and see where this has been the case. Even early man, after the spear was developed, came up with the atlatl which improved throwing distance and power.

We'd still be walking if someone hadn't come up with the idea of a way to control a critter while riding it... or a way to sit on it without having your cojones driven up through your brainpan. :0) and I'm rather certain, those weren't accomplished with R&D funding.

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:>Frank ess wrote: :>> :>> :>> Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:19:16 -0500, WindsorFox-{SS}- :>>> wrote: :>>>

:>>>>> Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>>>>>> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:19:10 -0500, "WindsorFox" :>>>>>> wrote: :>>>>>>

:>>>>>>>> Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>>>>>>>>

:>>>>>>>>> Again, we'll see soon enough. Although I'm curious why you :>>>>>>>>> think Progressive Ins. Co. would be part and parcel to a scam. :>>>>>>>>>

:>>>>>>>>

:>>>>>>>> They aren't. Assuming the prize offer is real and not an :>>>>>>>> Internet story, they are merely offering a prize for the first :>>>>>>>> car to get 100MPG the same as the company(s) that offered "The :>>>>>>>> X Prize" for the first team to build a vehicle and go into :>>>>>>>> outer space and back to a safe landing. They don't necessarily :>>>>>>>> have anything to do with the participants and he will only get :>>>>>>>> the prize when he satisfies their criteria. :>>>>>>

:>>>>>> Common sense at last. :) :>>>>>

:>>>>> Um, what the HELL is up with your news client? Your replies :>>>>> are the only ones on the entirety of groups I read that don't :>>>>> change color for quoted text. It's those colons before the > that :>>>>> are throwing it off and I've read other people using Agent as :>>>>> well. Is that something you did purposefully? :>>>

:>>> Why don't we ask the group? Is anyone else having the same problem :>>> as WF with my posts? If not then I have to assume the problem is :>>> on your end. :>> :>> I see colors and no colons. OE with QuoteFix. I know, I know. IJDGAS. :>> :>

:> What's quotefix? Apparently something that removes the colons?? :-P :>I'm just curious why her Agent is doing that.

Apparently the problem lies with your Thunderbird with cox news server account as you had no problem responding to me on your other account.

If this seems to be such an insurmountable problem for you just add me to your kill file and be done with it.

modern engine and says his 1987 Ford Mustang will get 110 miles to the gal= lon.

You are correct, however, the actual mileage for E85 converts to about

77 mpg. The "equivalent" in MPGe refers to the energy produced when a fuel is burned, not the volumetric ratio of petroleum product to non- petroleum product. It takes about 1.43 gallons of E85 to get the same energy from a gallon of gasoline.

Heck, if he got a Ford 5.0L to get 30 mpg in the city and make great power, that'd be pretty cool to me. Anything more than that is gravy ;).

Dan P49Y83+ Dan

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:>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:35:33 -0500, WindsorFox-{SS}- :>> wrote: :>> :>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> :>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:53:53 -0500, WindsorFox-{SS}- :>> :>> wrote: :>> :>> :>> :>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> :>> :>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:19:16 -0500, WindsorFox-{SS}- :>> :>> :>> wrote: :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> :>> :>> :>> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:19:10 -0500, "WindsorFox" :>> :>> :>> :>> wrote: :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> :>> :>> :>> :>

:>> :>> :>> :>> :>> Again, we'll see soon enough. Although I'm curious why you think :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> Progressive Ins. Co. would be part and parcel to a scam. :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>

:>> :>> :>> :>> :> They aren't. Assuming the prize offer is real and not an Internet :>> :>> :>> :>> :>story, they are merely offering a prize for the first car to get 100MPG :>> :>> :>> :>> :>the same as the company(s) that offered "The X Prize" for the first team :>> :>> :>> :>> :>to build a vehicle and go into outer space and back to a safe landing. :>> :>> :>> :>> :>They don't necessarily have anything to do with the participants and he :>> :>> :>> :>> :>will only get the prize when he satisfies their criteria. :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> Common sense at last. :) :>> :>> :>> :>

:>> :>> :>> :> Um, what the HELL is up with your news client? Your replies are the :>> :>> :>> :>only ones on the entirety of groups I read that don't change color for :>> :>> :>> :>quoted text. It's those colons before the > that are throwing it off and :>> :>> :>> :>I've read other people using Agent as well. Is that something you did :>> :>> :>> :>purposefully? :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> Why don't we ask the group? Is anyone else having the same problem as WF :>> :>> :>> with my posts? If not then I have to assume the problem is on your end. :>> :>> :>

:>> :>> :>

:>> :>> :> Trust me it's not on my end, it is only your posts. Even Dwight's :>> :>> :>reply to you comes out correct. Like I said, it has to be the :> in :>> :>> :>front of your quotes instead of > or >>. Dwight may not see different :>> :>> :>quotes in different colors unless he specifically sets Windows mail to :>> :>> :>do that, Gill is using Thunderbird so it does it by default. :>> :>> :>> :>> I've used the :> forevah, including on this ng. You've used at least two :>> :>> sets of software to post on this thread. Try reconfiguring your OE :>> :>> settings on the software you're using now. :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>

:>> :> Mope, I've never used anything but Thunderbird. Before that it was :>> :>Netscape. :>> :>> Two servers, two possible newsreaders. Work and home? :>> Funny how you had no problemo with this first account, eh? :>> :>

:> Two servers, same computer, same installation of Thunderbird, same :>house, same desk, same cable interface. Your replies do it on the Glrob :>server as well, perhaps you missed Gill's reply saying your replies did :>not quote color like the others.

You use Thunderbird on two accounts. Gill uses Thunderbird. And no one else has the problem but you two? What's the common denominator.

:> I was just curious.

Ok.

:>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:32:41 -0500, WindsorFox-{SS}- :>> wrote: :>> :>> :>Frank ess wrote: :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> :>>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:19:16 -0500, WindsorFox-{SS}- :>> :>>> wrote: :>> :>>>

:>> :>>>>> Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> :>>>>>> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:19:10 -0500, "WindsorFox" :>> :>>>>>> wrote: :>> :>>>>>>

:>> :>>>>>>>> Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> :>>>>>>>>

:>> :>>>>>>>>> Again, we'll see soon enough. Although I'm curious why you :>> :>>>>>>>>> think Progressive Ins. Co. would be part and parcel to a scam. :>> :>>>>>>>>>

:>> :>>>>>>>>

:>> :>>>>>>>> They aren't. Assuming the prize offer is real and not an :>> :>>>>>>>> Internet story, they are merely offering a prize for the first :>> :>>>>>>>> car to get 100MPG the same as the company(s) that offered "The :>> :>>>>>>>> X Prize" for the first team to build a vehicle and go into :>> :>>>>>>>> outer space and back to a safe landing. They don't necessarily :>> :>>>>>>>> have anything to do with the participants and he will only get :>> :>>>>>>>> the prize when he satisfies their criteria. :>> :>>>>>>

:>> :>>>>>> Common sense at last. :) :>> :>>>>>

:>> :>>>>> Um, what the HELL is up with your news client? Your replies :>> :>>>>> are the only ones on the entirety of groups I read that don't :>> :>>>>> change color for quoted text. It's those colons before the > that :>> :>>>>> are throwing it off and I've read other people using Agent as :>> :>>>>> well. Is that something you did purposefully? :>> :>>>

:>> :>>> Why don't we ask the group? Is anyone else having the same problem :>> :>>> as WF with my posts? If not then I have to assume the problem is :>> :>>> on your end. :>> :>> :>> :>> I see colors and no colons. OE with QuoteFix. I know, I know. IJDGAS. :>> :>> :>> :>

:>> :> What's quotefix? Apparently something that removes the colons?? :-P :>> :>I'm just curious why her Agent is doing that. :>> :>> Apparently the problem lies with your Thunderbird with cox news server :>> account as you had no problem responding to me on your other account. :>> :>> If this seems to be such an insurmountable problem for you just add me to :>> your kill file and be done with it. :>

:> Aren't we testy? No, it is not on my end. Your replies did the same :>thing on the Glorb server I just never mentioned it. I also never said I :>had a problem replying, I said I was mostly curious as to why your agent :>is doing it. If it were my Thunderbird, Gill would not have seen the :>same thing I did.

Don't both you and GILL use Thunderbird? And yet no one on dozens of newsgroups over the years have ever mentioned having a problem until you.

engine and says his 1987 Ford Mustang will get 110 miles to the gallon.

Or, maybe it's really 6.0 mpg. 110 in binary = 6 decimal. ;-)

:>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> Don't both you and GILL use Thunderbird? And yet no one on dozens of :>> newsgroups over the years have ever mentioned having a problem until you. :>

:> Yes and Gill said his does the same thing.

It certainly sounds like a Thunderbird problem.

:>You seem to be ignoring that point.

Au contraire. I've said all along it's your problem and it's a problem with your software, in this case Thunderbird.

:>You sound like Cox tech support.

They told you the same thing? So stop whining at me.

:>Th colons in your replies makes Thunderbird not change the color of the quotes. :>It's not just me and it's not *my* machine,

The more you keep talking the more it sounds like a Thunderbird problem, yet somehow the problem is supposed to be mine.

:>it's partially Agent with the colons added :>and partially Tbird not recognizing the quote.

:>I had no idea you would take it so personally.

Then you must be stupid. You addressed me personally and specifically and asked if I was inconveniencing you on purpose. But of course I'm not to take that personally...

Sarah Czepiel wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

It is.

Xnews shows all the colors correctly just fine. Thunderbird has the color issue.

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:>Sarah Czepiel wrote in :>news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com: :>

:>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:51:10 -0500, WindsorFox-{SS}- :>> wrote: :>> :>>:>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>>:>> Don't both you and GILL use Thunderbird? And yet no one on dozens :>>:>> of newsgroups over the years have ever mentioned having a problem :>>:>> until you. :>>:>

:>>:> Yes and Gill said his does the same thing. :>> :>> It certainly sounds like a Thunderbird problem. :>

:>It is. :>

:>>:>You seem to be ignoring that point. :>> :>> Au contraire. I've said all along it's your problem and it's a :>> problem with your software, in this case Thunderbird. :>

:>Xnews shows all the colors correctly just fine. Thunderbird has the :>color issue. :>

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Thanks Joe. That's what a few people have confirmed for me as well.

:>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>

:>> Then you must be stupid. You addressed me personally and specifically and :>> asked if I was inconveniencing you on purpose. But of course I'm not to :>> take that personally... :>

:> Ah, I see now why the guy I had booted from SuperNews so long ago was :>making the posts about you that he was.

This looks like your way of saying you now know you were wrong and that I was right all along. I understand you all too well - it bruises your male ego when I, the uppity female, point out your error to you. What's next? You accuse me of starving your puppy? You were wrong. So what? We've both been on this ng a loooooong time. Grow up and move on.

:>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>

:>> Then you must be stupid. You addressed me personally and specifically and :>> asked if I was inconveniencing you on purpose. But of course I'm not to :>> take that personally... :>

:> Ah, I see now why the guy I had booted from SuperNews so long ago was :>making the posts about you that he was.

I've been following this amusing boxing match from the beginning and I have to tell you WindsorFox, you really need to throw in the towel now and lose gracefully with some of your dignity intact, otherwise Czepiel is probably going to end up pulling your pants down below your ankles right before she puts your lights out in the next round. You started this street fight with someone who wasn't looking for any trouble with you and you shouldn't get angry now that she planted a foot in your nut sack.

:>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:17:04 -0500, WindsorFox-{SS}- :>> wrote: :>> :>> :>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> :>

:>> :>> Then you must be stupid. You addressed me personally and specifically and :>> :>> asked if I was inconveniencing you on purpose. But of course I'm not to :>> :>> take that personally... :>> :>

:>> :> Ah, I see now why the guy I had booted from SuperNews so long ago was :>> :>making the posts about you that he was. :>> :>> This looks like your way of saying you now know you were wrong and that I :>> was right all along. I understand you all too well - it bruises your male :>> ego when I, the uppity female, point out your error to you. What's next? :>> You accuse me of starving your puppy? You were wrong. So what? We've both :>> been on this ng a loooooong time. Grow up and move on. :>> :>> :>

:> No, it means I totally see why he did it.

Well good for you. I hope you'll sleep well tonight.

You're having a problem with your newsreader. You can fix it. You can ignore it. Or you can use a newsreader which doesn't have the problem. I will continue to post as I have always done oblivious to your plight. I suggest you grow up and move along.