Re: NASTY Lil' Cobra Being Twin Screwed

It's kind of like a brother that is ten years older than you. When you're 5 years old the age difference seems huge. When you're sixty years old it isn't that great, relatively speaking. Both the Corvette and the Mustang have a relatively long continuous history and the longer they stick around the less meaningful that 11 years becomes.

I think so. Has the horse turned into hamburger yet?

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Michael Johnson
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Only if it's a 5.0

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WindsorFox

Michael Johnson wrote in news:y7idnWYvxLpOL73anZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

friggin'

I dunno, but I had a steak cooked on the grill for dinner tonight.

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Joe

Ummmm....ummmm....ahhh.... ummmm... depends how each of them are set- up. Top choice: Any of the first three with a tightened up chassis, some factory Mustang alloy wheels, a 5 or 6 speed trans, and a rompin' V8 under the hood.

I love sleepers!

Patrick

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NoOption5L

If I had to keep the car as it comes from Ford the Mustang wins hands down. The mentality of most car buyers doesn't include after market tweaks of that magnitude.

You're preaching to the choir here. Here's my car if you saw it on the street:

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Here is an under hood shot:

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I have shocked more Camaro and Firebird owners over the years than I can remember. I would let them stay even with me the first two gears and then in third pull away from them like they were standing still. Then at about 70-80 mph back off and let them pass me. The looks I would get from the drivers were priceless.

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Michael Johnson

Too bad you're not my neighbor. I had a frozen dinner.

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Michael Johnson

Michael Johnson wrote in news:Z8adnfE5opuL2LzanZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Michael, you are always talking about how potent the mod motors are with only a few tweaks, especially how easy it is to simply change the pulley on the blown motors for an extra whatever horsepower. Why not apply those thoughts here?

As awesome as your car is, I don't know that I'd call it a sleeper. It's obviously a 5.0, and with the newer wheels, it's all that hard to tell that someone's gotten in there and "done stuff". ;)

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Joe

Michael Johnson wrote in news:Z8adnfA5opsy2LzanZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Hey, if you're in the neighborhood, you've got a standing invitation. I use salt-free seasoning from Omaha Steaks on most stuff I grill. Simply awesome.

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Joe

I think we here in this group feel we are more he norm than we really are. Most people don't seriously modify a car and stick to cosmetic changes more than meaningful one from a standpoint of performance. While you can give a Granada the same performance as a Mustang, or better, why do it when you can have a Mustang for less investment.

Wheels get changed all the time. Most people don't even realize I had to swap out the front spindles and brakes to put on the 2000 GT rims. Ride height is stock, the hood is stock, tail pipes look stock. If anything gives it away it would be the cam and very slight blower whine. Cruising down the road though it comes off as stock with newer rims.

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Michael Johnson

I haven't been to Florida since my father passed away in 1990. He had a house in Ruskin just Southeast of Tampa Bay. He had a home made air boat and a regular boat that we used for some great excursions. We would get oysters, clams, scallops, island hop and camp on the Key Islands, fish in remote areas, make all day jaunts into the upper Everglades among other things. Going there now to stay in a hotel and sit on the beach just doesn't do it for me now. IMO, the majority of people that visit Florida miss out on doing the best stuff the state offers. Forget Disney World, there are much better attractions from Mother Nature.

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Michael Johnson

Michael Johnson wrote in news:ToGdncLBBvw1Q7zanZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

You got that right. Most people don't have a clue what the Everglades or the Keys are all about - nowadays they all think of Disney. But I've heard that Ft. Lauderdale is now the top gay vacation spot. ;)

Check out any of Tim Dorsey's books

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- he's a pretty good satirist from Tampa. Writes mostly about over-the-top hijinks in Florida. Sort of a poor man's Carl Hiaasen if you will.

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Joe

I'll check it out. Speaking of popular gay spots, my wife and I were visiting Maine in late August one year and decided to visit some of the surrounding small towns for site seeing purposes. I can't remember the town's name but it swells in population every year about that time with gays. It took me about an hour of walking around to get what was going on there. Three young guys were walking toward us on the sidewalk and one was dressed in tight, small shorts, combat boots and a tight T-shirt. He was the poster boy for what one might think as the stereotypical gay man. As we got closer I glanced over at him and he smiled real big and winked at me! I lost it right there and started laughing. He laughed too.

I spent the next five minutes explaining to my wife what just transpired. I told her she had better treat me right that day because in this town I am a hot commodity.... a gay virgin in an overwhelmingly gay town. I was trophy material for these guys! When we got back to our friends house and told them about our experience they laughed their asses off. Evidently that town is known as the San Francisco of the East Coast in late August. Gays come from all over to stay there for a couple of weeks. It is so crowded that the locals stay away until they leave. The town loves it because gays spend money like drunken sailors while they are there.

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Michael Johnson

Michael Johnson wrote in news:xP6dnWeuiv-Bi7_anZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Michael, I'm starting to worry about you. "A gay virgin in an overwhelmingly gay town". Sounds like the opening line of a screenplay... ;)

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Joe

If I ever switch teams I know where I'm heading in late August. ;)

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Michael Johnson

The opening lines in the next Harry Potter book/movie.

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John

But we are talking about and comparing 20+ year old cars (Grenada, LTD, Fairmont).

Very, very nice!! Tell me about the motor again. What did/does this car run in the quarter?

This is the last year for both of my kids' college, so maybe next year I'll enrich the venom in my Cobra.

Patrick

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NoOption5L

Another thing we agree on. Man-made attractions or Mother Nature. Mother Nature wins hands down every time!

Patrick

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NoOption5L

I made the trip to Ruskin, Florida every spring break while I was in college. My sophomore year several college buddies that went to Ft. Lauderdale that year swung by my Dad's place for two days. We took them out to do the stuff I normally did there and they LOVED it. For the next two years my friends skipped Ft. Lauderdale and stayed at my father's place and we had a blast both years. They ate up going into the Everglades, running through abandoned boats in the middle of Tampa Bay in 2-3 feet of water (a very weird experience BTW to be miles from shore and get out of the boat and wade around in knee high water), dive for gallons of fresh oysters, clamming, crabbing (some of the biggest and best I have ever had), fishing etc. Also, it is EXTREMELY cool to find a small isolated Key island and camp out overnight and sit around a fire and eat, drink beer and talk bullshit until dawn. Great memories, I tell you.

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Michael Johnson

Thanks. Here is a list of the mods I can remember off the top of my head:

Kenne Bell Blowzilla w/ Flowzilla manifolds (run at 16 psi or 12 psi) Cobra lower intake and GT40 heads that have been ported to hell and back Bone stock and original short block Water and/or alcohol injection system for charge air cooling Aeromotive 1000 lph fuel pump Large diameter fuel lines from the tank to the fuel rails Aeromotive high flow fuel rails

42# fuel injectors High capacity radiator 75mm TB/EGR with 75mm CLR aluminum intake pipe. Custom pulleys to allow use of a larger blower pulley (less belt slip) T-56 Viper spec 6-speed transmission Custom aluminum drive shaft Subframe connectors SPEC Stage III racing clutch (painful in stop & go traffic) Rebuilt T-Loc differential with extra clutch packs inserted SN95 front brakes and spindles Dynomax Ultraflow catback exhaust (2.5") MAC off road H-pipe (2.5") FMS ceramic coated shorty headers Steeda Triax shifter Battery relocated to the trunk (needed space for water injection system) 2000 GT 17" rims and tires

I think that is about it. I would love to give you some track times but it has never been there. I have a G-Tech but couldn't find a stretch of road around here to run the car wide open to get an accurate time. Plus, it is really too fast to push it that hard on the street anyway. I do have some respectable 0-60 mph runs with the G-Tech at 4.5 seconds on street tires. I have no doubt a good set of slicks would push that number to well under four seconds. The last dyno run I did put out 400 rwhp at 5,000 rpm and we cut it off there because of valve float (before the head work was done). It made 460 ft-lbs of torque at 2,500 rpm on that pull. With the porting and new valve springs I expect the horsepower is around 430-440 rwhp and the torque has dropped a little. What that is worth in 1/4 mile times is anybodies guess.

It might be cheaper for you if your kids stay in college. ;)

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Michael Johnson

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