Why do people do this?

Quick question, since most of you drive freeways now and then, and you probably tend to share them with big trucks.

When I need to change lanes, I normally wait until there is enough space to slide my fat-ass'ed rig over. Sometimes, traffic is so heavy that I begin signaling the *need* to move over, (in effect, 'asking' those already there for permission to move) and I wait until the lane next to me is clear.

The problem: after signaling, and the lane next to me is clear, aggressive morons come racing up next to my truck, then just sit there, blocking the lane so that I cannot move over.

The question: WHY do people do this? I wish to understand why people would purposely block a Semi from changing lanes, endangering their lives in the process.

The end result: Normally, I give it 3-4 TS 'blinks' before I start over. In heavy traffic, I wait until the people next to me either pass or change lanes, and there is plenty of room for me. They have the right-of-way after all, and I try to be as polite as I can, but sometimes I have no choice: I *must* change lanes. It is not an option for me.

However, it seems lately that there is always some JERK that races into that space I so desperately need, in order to keep me from changing lanes. When I recognize this kind of shitty behavior, said JERK has 2 options when I start over: brake hard and/or change lanes quickly, because once I start over, it's a done deal. Challenge me, and you will be chewing my tires. I don't back down, and it ain't MY funeral, pal.

I know most people hate trucks and truck drivers. They can't see around the trucks, they're filthy, big and disgusting-looking, they smell and they're noisy, and they're just plain intimidating when you're near one. I understand this, and I TRY to be as patient as I can be, on the road.

Unfortunately, my good intentions seem lost on the motoring public.

Early last year, I was on a 4-lane highway with a 'female' in an SUV next to me. No one else was on this road for miles in every direction. She was on the left, I on the right. My turn was quickly approaching, so I signaled a left turn. She just sat there, right next to me. I slowed. She slowed. I sped up. She sped up. I slowed again, and she matched me, move for move. I finally gave up and began to move over. She wouldn't budge ONE INCH. She ended up being pushed over into oncoming traffic, where she angrily drove for over 1/2 mile, right next to me, as she ran cars off the road, their horns blaring and brights flashing. I still don't understand what her problem was.

People like this need a serious reality check. This is how I earn my living, and I will thank everyone on the road to PLEASE show a modicum of maturity and curtesy when sharing the road with others. If you had to drive a damned truck

12 hours a day, you'd get weary of stinky behavior like this too. Give those poor, tired old Truckers a break, would ya?

And ladies, we DO appreciate a wink and a nod when you're sitting next to us in traffic. Yes, we take a peek downward and check y'all out, even though you don't normally notice. A fine 'seat cover' is our only reward in life, and we appreciate you all, bless you're hearts.

-JD

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Normally, when a truck starts flashing he wants over, I slow and give a flash of the headlights to signal he can come on over. Also, if I need to get over in front of a truck, I put my signal on and wait - even if there is room - so that he can slow a bit. I don't like the idea of pulling in front of a truck and then being run over by it because it can't slow down as quick as I can. However, sometimes trucks do some inconsiderate things. For instance, a few weeks ago - and this has happened before - I was forced off on to an exit ramp because of a truck. The situation was a freeway that splits and he needed to get over. I had just gotten on the freeway and had no choice about where I was. Nevertheless, he was coming over and I wasn't going to stop him. I slammed on the brakes, hit the horn, but it was too late to do anything but cross the solid white lines and whip onto the service drive. This was largely a failure of freeway design, made worse by a construction situation. However, missing his exit is a lot better than running me over. That said, I see people doing crazy things around trucks all the time. Cutting in front of a big truck and slamming on the brakes is always entertaining. As is driving in the "No Zone". Generally, I appreciate the courtesy of truck drivers letting me over and generally being sensible, but it is unnerving at times to look across at a truck and be at the same level as the hubs - especially when those big wheels start coming at you!

Jim S. '82 Mutant

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Jim S.

I usually slow down and let the truck get in front of me unless it would be quicker to speed up and get out of the way.

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Mark Jones

I tend to treat truckers like everyone else. If you ask, I'll let you in. I'll treat you with all the courtesy and respect that you show to others.

But if you drive like a son of a bitch, you get no breaks from me.

dwight

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dwight

JD,

If it makes you feel any better those are the same idiots who'll ignore my GIANT GREEN FIRETRUCK! It doesn't matter if I've got the woo-woo lights and the siren on they just keep be-bopping down the road fat, dumb and happy. I'll be next to them in the oncoming lane and they still won't slow down... The really stupid ones will try to stay in front of me so they don't have to pull over... Never fails, I catch them at a blind hill or curve & that's where Joe Citizen decides to finally yield the right-of-way.

When driving non-emergent these same fine folks will hug my ass wanting to pass. Then, of course, when I move over to let them pass they pull ahead & proceed to drive BELOW the posted speed... arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

We haven't even touched on the Darwin candidates who like to pull out in front of us... they seem to think I can stop 18 tons on a dime.

FWIW, I think a large portion of drivers know that truckers are are professional and that they are, usually, the safer drivers on the road.

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bill

Its real bad here in Seattle too JD. I drive an international 4900 Box truck around here all day and people just WILL NOT let me over. I have resorted to "honk and go" - It is what it sounds like.. I just start honking and changing lanes. People get REAL pissed, its actually pretty funny.

People wont even be patient with me when I am backing up or turning.. they whip around behind me to go around me while I am backing this big huge white truck up. I can't see directly behind me, and someday one of those idiots is going to get crushed.

The same happens to me in my car (84 Celica GT-S), which I incidentally drive like it is a big truck (which must be REALLY funny to watch)

Don't worry, JD, You aren't the only trucker finding it harder and harder to change lanes.

Carl

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Carl Saiyed

Be 'bout 2, maybe 3 years ago..... I'm heading down mainstreet (our 1st out is white) and people are actually pulling over and stopping. There wasn't a sound in the cab.... the guys even stopped putting on their BA because they couldn't believe this spectacle. Of course, next trip out, it was the same old same old....

It's the same thing all the world over...... people do the Jekyll and Hyde thing as soon as the key hits the ignition... It matters not that we are responding to something that could possibly involve their loved ones, they will not be "bullied" by 5 guys in a big, noisey truck.

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Jim Warman

| However, sometimes trucks do some inconsiderate things. For instance, a

``trucks don't do inconsiderate things, stupid people driving trucks do inconsiderate things.'' :-)

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bitbucket

Probably for the same reason big rigs block up the left lane moving

15-20 mph less than the speed limit. They're just damn stupid, is all. A couple of months ago I was driving east out of Salt Lake City. There's a fairly long steep grade there. My truck has no problems with these hills, traffic was very light, so I was moving along between 75 and 80 mph (speed limit is 75). Up ahead there were two big rigs, one right behind the other, movine at about 55. Sure enough, just as I got up to them, the one on the rear changes lanes and runs me into the shoulder. So after a while, he finally moved in to the right lane where he belongs. So I moved in front of him, changed lanes, and slowed to 35. Damn, but those truckers piss me off.
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"dwight" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@uni-berlin.de:

Couldn't have put it better.

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Joe

Same as my experience, the trucker waits until you are along side, even though you've been moving faster all along and he had to know you were going to catch up to him sooner or later. But it's not only truckers that do this sort of thing.

More and more people have been doing what I call the 'needless lane change' I'll be on a 3 lane interstate and there will be someone moving slower up ahead of me in the lane to my right. Most times we are the only two vehicles in the immediate area. Just as I get up to the guy, he'll change lanes right into my path when there is _NOTHING_ blocking his forward progress in the lane he's already in. I've begun going two lanes over from people in the rare chances that I can just because of this.

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Brent P

Me neither. I show a lot of respect to all other drivers especially on the interstates... but some truck drivers think they are bad mfers simply b/c they are bigger. Who knows.. maybe they had a hard day.

-Mike

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<memset

First issue is the fact that a drivers license is way too easy to get. There is a large segment of the population whose possession of said license could be considered a deadly weapon. Second issue is the fact that State policemen do not enforce traffic laws equally. Here, (Washington State) there is a law that says slower traffic keep in the right lane. Seldom enforced, but follow a slow moving car in the left lane too close, you will get a BIG ticket. As bad as traffic is in Seattle, my experience is if you signal your intentions to change lanes, people will usually let you in. Not so in the eastern part of the state.

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Bill

I think it's because of the way truck drivers behave a lot of the time.For example,the drive from LA to Las vegas on the 15 is a bitch at the best of times,but trucks make it worse by pulling out in front of you to pass the truck in front,just as you are approaching.They do it all the time,and it is a pain in the ass.You cannot sit there and tell me they didnt see you coming.Then they just sit there next to the truck they are 'passing' and take forever to get past.It happens at least half a dozen times on every trip.And then they look at you as if to say "What did I do?" You know exactly what you do,piss drivers off by getting in their way and cutting them off all time.And you wonder why most drivers hate trucks ?

And in Nevada,it's even worse,trucks are actually allowed to use the fast lane,so if you get stuck behind one,good luck people!! But as soon as they go over the state line to CA,they have to get back over to the right.

Its no wonder people get frustrated with truck drivers.Most of them seem to think they own the road.

Andrew

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me

The answer is obvious: people are generally stupid pricks. An addendum to this: they don't only do it to truck drivers. It happens to everyone.

What a horrific statement, but not inconsistent with earlier comments by yourself.

The fact of the matter is, truck drivers simply need to be the best and most courteous drivers on the road, because when a truck is involved in an accident, either everybody dies, and/or a highway is shut down for the rest of the day inconveniencing tens or hundreds of thousands. In fact, in my opinion, the average trucker *is* a better and more courteous driver than the average passenger car driver. That's not good enough, and too many truckers have the attitude you display above.

Furthermore, truckers certainly have a sense of entitlement on the highway. How many of those lane changes you "so desperately" need to make are so you can save fuel and not get stuck behind a slower moving rig in front of you (regardless of the number of passenger vehicles that have to jump on their brakes, wasting their own fuel, to accommodate you)?

Im summary, I would answer your question with my idea for a bumper sticker for all us that are tired of those few truckers that give all truckers a bad name:

"If I can't see your mirrors...GET OUT OF THE GODDAM FAST LANE."

You asked.

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pawn
** > Quick question, since most of you drive freeways now and then, and you ** > probably tend to share them with big trucks. ** ** I tend to treat truckers like everyone else. If you ask, I'll let you in. ** I'll treat you with all the courtesy and respect that you show to others. ** ** But if you drive like a son of a bitch, you get no breaks from me.

Now, that's the way it should be. And don't think I haven't gotten into it with other truckers for crap they've pulled on ME. The most irksome thing I see truckers do is tailgate 4-wheelers. It's a death sentence for the

4-wheeler, and a cite for the Big Dog if something goes terribly wrong.

What the HELL ever happened to the days when driving was FUN? People actually slowed/stopped when an animal wandered into the street. Everyone waved at their neighbor when they passed by? Going for a Sunday Drive was enjoyable?

-JD

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** If it makes you feel any better those are the same idiots who'll ignore my ** GIANT GREEN FIRETRUCK!

Good grief. The BS I've seen drivers pull during Code-3's is astounding. I've pulled up onto SIDEWALKS to clear a path for these folks. Hey, if the siren's on, it's important: get the hell out of the way!

** When driving non-emergent these same fine folks will hug my ass wanting to ** pass. Then, of course, when I move over to let them pass they pull ahead & ** proceed to drive BELOW the posted speed... arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Oh hell, they love to do this to me, as though they're 'punishing' me for getting in their all-important way. The urge to push their arrogant ASS out of my way is nearly overwelming at times. I know a guy who lost all control when one retard pulled this crap going up the Altamont. The Trucker dropped a gear, nailed it, and that 1000-HP Detroit pushed the arrogant moron SIDEWAYS up that hill. He didn't back off until all 4 tires were gone, and it looked like the car would roll under his rig.

** We haven't even touched on the Darwin candidates who like to pull out in front ** of us... they seem to think I can stop 18 tons on a dime.

I've even had other big trucks pull this crap on me. Hell, my rig weighs 18 tons empty. Try stopping 40 tons in a damn-big hurry! There isn't enough braking power in Earth to make it happen, so you start looking for a place to ditch it. Not good. Boss Man's spent $100,000 on that rig, and you'll have some 'splaining to do if it has to happen. So far, I've been lucky. 10 years without an accident. (knocking on wood)

** FWIW, I think a large portion of drivers know that truckers are are ** professional and that they are, usually, the safer drivers on the road.

Oh man, if the public only knew how bad some of these so-called 'professionals' really are, they'd never venture out on the road again. I've seen some that even I didn't want to be anywhere NEAR. Maybe 30% are truly professional. The rest couldn't drive their way out of a paper bag.

-JD

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JD Adams
** Its real bad here in Seattle too JD. I drive an international 4900 Box truck ** around here all day and people just WILL NOT let me over. I have resorted to ** "honk and go" - It is what it sounds like.. I just start honking and ** changing lanes. People get REAL pissed, its actually pretty funny.

I haven't tried that one yet - it does sound like fun. I do my damndest to just get down the road in one piece and let everyone get where they are going, but it seems that the more crowed roads get, the more people act like angry, caged animals.

** Don't worry, JD, You aren't the only trucker finding it harder and harder to ** change lanes.

I appreciate that, Carl. It's gotten tougher over the last few years, and no end seems to be in sight. Again, I contemplate getting out of it this winter. It's just getting too dangerous, and I kinda like comming home ALIVE.

Five years ago, a man and his young son were running a fuel tanker near here when a car cut him off for whatever reason. He whipped it around to avoid the car, and ended up jacknifing it enough that it rolled and caught fire. Both he and his 9-year old son burned to death before anyone could get them out. I was one of the truckers who tried like HELL to get into the cab with a fire extinguisher, but the heat was so intense that it was impossible. I lost most of my hair trying, and I had nightmares for a month afterward. The offending

4-wheeler was never caught.

Everyone should KEEP THIS IN MIND. That trucker you cut off and put into a ditch often has a wife, son or daughter in the passenger seat or the sleeper compartment. Your stupidity and arrogance can easily kill everyone involved. Give 'em a break, would ya? These people are just out there trying to earn a buck to pay the bills. There's no reason to give them a hard time.

-JD

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JD Adams
** So after a while, he finally moved in to the right lane where he ** belongs. So I moved in front of him, changed lanes, and slowed to 35. ** Damn, but those truckers piss me off.

So you figure you taught those Truckers a lesson or something by slowing to 35 on a 70 mph. stretch of road in front of them?

Two wrongs don't make a right, Bob. Think about it, would ya?

-JD

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JD Adams
** First issue is the fact that a drivers license is way too easy to get.

Now, we can certainly agree on this!!! Not only are licenses dirt-easy to get, but they don't get PULLED easily either. Morons who demonstrate that they are a danger to other drivers NEVER, EVER get their license pulled, no matter how many infractions or DUI's they get here in CA.

I've always though driving was a privilege. I was wrong.

-JD

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