Now it won't start at all (was Intermittent Hard Start, 97 Max)

OK, this morning it finally happened - the Maxima couldn't get me to work. (Had to take my twin turbo RX-7, hehe :) Before now it would take about 5-6s of cranking before the engine would start, but it always started. Usually when the engine was cold. When warm, it usually started as normal with only 2s of cranking.

Cranked the starter for a good 10s about 5 times and the engine never started. CEL came on, and the codes were 0101 and 0304 (Knock Sensor and Camshaft Position Sensor). I've checked the CmPS system per the Factory Service Manual and it's good. I did a quick check of the Knock Sensor, but the manual says it won't affect starting. I also tried letting the ignition 'On' for a while before cranking but it didn't help. I've been getting those codes after a couple of hard start episodes. Also, this morning I noticed a fuel smell very briefly for the first time.

Nirav suggested the Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor. So I changed that this morning and it didn't fix things. I haven't yet done the continuity check on the ECTS wiring due to time, but I doubt that's a problem.

Maybe these are basic questions but:

- Does the FSM have a starting troubleshooting flowchart? So far I haven't found one - the section on 'starting' is just a bunch of electrical diagrams and how to pull the starter assembly. I skipped it since the starter sounds like it's been working fine and it's not very old.

- What's the best way to verify spark and fuel pressure? Should I be checking the injectors next?

Thanks for the help so far, and thanks for anyone who contributes further.

Dave

Reply to
David Geesaman
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Doesn't mean it's not the problem. Bad MAS's ussually pass the FSM test as well. Given what you've said about this problem the cam sensor could easily be what's wrong. Seem them cause plenty of intermitant no sytarts and since it turned on the CEL and set this code when it wouldn't start, that's what I'd be replacing.

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Steve T

Thanks Steve. Nirav and I continued this discussion yesterday on the .org forums and he suggested the same thing. So I've ordered a new CmPS from Jerry Rome Nissan (only $56!). I hope they can move the order fast though - it won't run without it. I will report if this fixes it.

Dave

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David Geesaman

We keep these kinds of parts around as it's easier to just plug in "obvious" parts to check them than spending hours testing parts that I've seen pass the simple FSM tests and still not work. I bet this fixes it.

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Steve T

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