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405 heater not very warm

Heater not working correctly since blown head gasket changed.

The coolant system seems to be working ok. Temperature reading 90°, radiator hot, inlet and outlet pipes to heater matrix hot, outlet pipe to thermostat hot, then top hose from thermostat to radiator suddenly changes from cold to hot which must indicate thermostat operating correctly, water expanding in radiator which indicates pressure ok.

Only warm air is expelled through the screen and dashboard vents, the lower vents in the footwell are virtually cold.

I have found two "valves", one on the thermostat housing and the other just above it (5mm socket head) which I have undone hoping to bleed the system; only water came out, no air was apparent.

Any suggestions of what to try next please?

Reply to
Mick
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Op Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:59:06 -0000 schreef Mick :

Did you just open the screws/valves to bleed the system, or have you used a 'topping up device' as you should have? The heater matrix is above the height of the filler cap, so it will not be filled up completely by just opening the bleed screws. You need a funnel of sorts, or manufacture one yourself by cutting off the bottom of a plactic softdrinks bottle and sticking it (watertight! use some duct tape) upside down into the expansion tank next to the radiator. This way you can raise the coolant level above the highest point in the system (which happens to be the heater matrix) so it can bleed properly. On the other hand, if the inlet and exit to the matrix are both hot, the matrix could also be partly blocked, possibly by debris for the old head gasket. In that case rinsing the system might work, or replacement is due. My guess is that topping up will cure the problem, though, since it appeared suddenly after the head gasket operation, and it didn't creep in over time. This also rules out a failure in the flap that directs the hot air to the screen, dash or footwell, according to the setting on your console, methinks.

good luck!

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Bzn.

Thanks for the info I'll give those suggestions a try. A replacement matrix has to be the last resort, some engineer thought it was a good idea to hide it behind the bulkhead :-(

Reply to
Mick

Changing a matrix isn't too bad really, especially the Mk1 version (up to 1993, radio aerial on the back wing). Remove the glovebox, drain the coolant, remove the hoses to the heater pipes at the bulkhead (engine side), undo the metal pipes to the matrix, and remove matrix. Always renew the seals where the pipes connect to the matrix. After

1993, you have to undo the dashboard on the n/s and lift up to get the matrix out. Best for two people.
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Nigel

Hello,

Radio aerial on the back wing, you sure ? I haven't seen one. I saw a lot of both Mk1 & Mk2 405s, beginning with my ma's '88 SRi (Mk1, no way to be wrong), they all had aerial on the roof.

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Reply to
G.T

Mk1 405 definitely had the aerial on the back left hand wing, Mk2 on the front of the roof.

Neil

Reply to
Neil D

Hello,

So it must be an "export-specific feature", as all french-specs 405s had aerial on the front of the roof, too.

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Reply to
G.T

Hi,

My -88 SRI definitely had it on the front of the roof... The GRI:s also had this... Which model did you have?

I never had any heater problems though, the fan stopped working and only blew in max position after a while..

Funny heater problems on my current 605, though... :-(

/Juhan

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Juhan Palm

Must be an export thing or something, mine was a 1990 1.6GR. The reason I remember the aerial was on the back wing is because I changed it for an electric one. My mate's H plate (90/91) Sri already had an electric aerial on the back wing, that gave me the idea of changing mine,

Neil

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Neil D

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