Just in case anyone wants to try refilling their diesel additive tank on models with the particle filter, you might be interested in part numbers. For early models pre vin 9491, using the Eolys DPX42 fluid, the Peugeot/Citroen part number for the 4.5 litre top up kit is 9979.95. Now the painful bit - cost today from local Citroen dealer, ?91.17 The later models use Eolys 176, and I believe the part no for that is
9736.86 for 3 litres.
Hello all
I've bought a top up kit from a Peugeot dealer. I consists of a 3 litre bottle of the fluid, an empty 1 litre bottle, a tube and a tap. Unfortunately there are no instructions. Can anyone please enlighten me how to use it?
Thanks
Richard
well u pee in the 1lt bottle mix it with the 3lts fluid stick the tube on the tap and there you have it, all ready to use lol lol.have fun
Find the small tank in front of the back left hand side wheel (307hdi 2004). Unhook the obvious filler pipe from the tank. Take your 3 litres and pour some of it into the 1 litre bottle. Attach the rest of the filler kit including the pipe and the on/off valve to the top of the bottle and then attach one end of the pipe to the tank under the wheel. Turn the 1 litre bottle over and squeeze gently untill all the fluid is out. Refill and continue, it will all go in because the tank will hold 5 litres. After you have done that you still might need to get the ecu reset because the 'Diesel additive minimum' error will still keep appearing.
More woes, I'm afraid.
I managed to get the EOLYS tank filled and took the car to the local Peugeot dealer to have the additive ECU reset.
They reset the particulate additive counters to zero and reported a permanent fault showing the fuel cap missing. I returned the car the following week for them to replace a faulty fuel cap sensor. Now they are telling me that the ECU is saying that the EOLYS tank is again empty and they can't clear the fault, a bit hard to believe if they managed to reset the counters last week. They're suggesting that the additive ECU may be broken. Is that likely?
Is resetting the additive counters the same thing as clearing the "additive tank empty" fault? If so it's hard to believe that they did it first time and can't do it again.
This little episode has already cost £260 (without the cost of the EOLYS) and I'm worried that they are just going to throw bits at the problem until its fixed.
Any advice (apart from throw>Find the small tank in front of the back left hand side wheel (307hdi 2004).
Another Peugeot dealer? If you tell us where you are someone may be able to point you towards one. Contrary to what some people want you to believe there are some good ones out there, it's just that you don't hear so much about them.
Ron Robinson
"R N Robinson" wrote in message news:g8kch9$n5e$ snipped-for-privacy@aioe.org...
What started as a "two hour job" has now spilled over into its third day.
Given the legendary unreliability of these cars and that the diesel additive tank always has to be refilled at some stage they must have encountered this job before, so why are they making such a meal of it?
Before I had a mechanic friend of mine refill the additive tank I got quotes for the job from two Peugeot dealers close to me (near Kings Langley in Hertfordshire). One was £180 and the other one £280. Such a big difference for the same job!
I can't help feeling that if they don't get the job they'll get you another way.
: :I can't help feeling that if they don't get the job they'll get you :another way.
You cynic :-)
The fact that you had a mate do the Eolys refill and then took the vehicle to them just to get the ECU counter reset was an open invitation to string you along so they could get the same amount as if they had done the complete job.
A cynic??? Me??
I think I must have been wearing my donkey ears when I first took the car in.
Here's what happened.
I filled the EOLYS tank and had to take it to a Peugeot dealer to have the additive ECU reset. The told me it needed a fuel cap sensor. Having read the Honest John forum (well worth a look) the sensor often fails, so I could believe that.
I returned the car a week later for the fuel cap sensor replacement. The "two hour job" they quoted turned into a three day job!.The service manager started to talk about a new additive ECU and even a new FAP and differential pressure sensor. I must have appeared to know what I was talking about because he backed off and they just did the fuel cap sensor.
A bit more rooting around on Honest John and I found out that the additive ECU can be difficult to reset and rather than them spending many hours trying they prefer to fit a new one and pass the cost on to the customer. They often try and persuade the customer to let them fit a FAP and differential pressure sensor just for good measure. The whole lot can cost about £1000. They charged me about £200 which isn't bad, given that Peugeot charge about £90 per hour for labour. From the time it took them to do the job, my guess is that they really did have grief with the ECU but didn't feel justified charging me for the time spent. It just didn't need the other bits.
My advise is to argue that it's extremely unlikely that all four components (the fuel cap sensor, the ECU, the FAP and the differential pressure sensor) would all fail together. That way you might avoid a huge bill.
Hope that helps
Richard
do: go back to that garage or get second opinion somewhere else. think I'm going to ask for a fixed quote for price of replacin sensor with garantee that if still not fixed they solve problem at n extra expense.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's what happened. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I filled the EOLYS tank and had to take it to a Peugeo dealer to have > > > > > > > the additive ECU reset. The told me it needed a fue cap sensor. > > > > > > > Having read the Honest John forum (well worth a look the sensor often > > > > > > > fails, so I could believe that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I returned the car a week later for the fuel cap senso replacement. > > > > > > > The "two hour job" they quoted turned into three day job!.The > > > > > > > service manager started to talk about a new additiv ECU and even a > > > > > > > new FAP and differential pressure sensor. I must hav appeared to know > > > > > > > what I was talking about because he backed off and the just did the > > > > > > > fuel cap sensor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A bit more rooting around on Honest John and I foun out that the > > > > > > > additive ECU can be difficult to reset and rather tha them spending > > > > > > > many hours trying they prefer to fit a new one and pas the cost on to > > > > > > > the customer. They often try and persuade the custome to let them fit > > > > > > > a FAP and differential pressure sensor just for goo measure. The > > > > > > > whole lot can cost about £1000. They charged me abou £200 which isn't > > > > > > > bad, given that Peugeot charge about £90 per hour fo labour. From the > > > > > > > time it took them to do the job, my guess is that the really did have > > > > > > > grief with the ECU but didn't feel justified chargin me for the time > > > > > > > spent. It just didn't need the other bits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advise is to argue that it's extremely unlikely tha all four > > > > > > > components (the fuel cap sensor, the ECU, the FAP an the differential > > > > > > > pressure sensor) would all fail together. That way yo might avoid a > > > > > > > huge bill. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what happened in the end?? Was the additive EC broken? 'cos we have the same problem now with our C8: has don
136000 km and gave signal that additive level was low. Took it t Citroen garage: they refilled with Eloys (4l), cannot tell me whethe they regenerated filter (!?), charged me a lot of money but now th sign "additive tank empty/low" doesn't go away. They sa it's the sensor (I assume the ECU??) but I'm hesitant about lettin them replace it without further questions or knowledge... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After filling with Eloys I know they added fuel (a least charged for it..) so that's not problem. Oh yes, and the ca smells bad... like a bus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anybody help? Should we replace sensor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More woes, I'm afraid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I managed to get the EOLYS tank filled and took the ca to the loca > > > > > > > Peugeot dealer to have the additive ECU reset > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They reset the particulate additive counters to zer and reported > > > > > > > permanent fault showing the fuel cap missing. returned the car th > > > > > > > following week for them to replace a faulty fuel ca sensor. Now the > > > > > > > are telling me that the ECU is saying that the EOLY tank is agai > > > > > > > empty and they can't clear the fault, a bit hard t believe if the > > > > > > > managed to reset the counters last week. They'r suggesting that th > > > > > > > additive ECU may be broken. Is that likely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is resetting the additive counters the same thing a clearing the > > > > > > > "additive tank empty" fault? If so it's hard to believe that they did > > > > > > > it first time and can't do it again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This little episode has already cost £260 (without the cost of the > > > > > > > EOLYS) and I'm worried that they are just going to throw bits at the > > > > > > > problem until its fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any advice (apart from throwing the car away) will be much > > > > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:51:43 +0100, "lenny" 3 litres and pour > > > > > > > some of it into the 1 litre bottle. Attach the rest of the filler kit > > > > > > > including the pipe and the on/off valve to the top of the bottle and then > > > > > > > attach one end of the pipe to the tank under the wheel. Turn the 1 litre > > > > > > > bottle over and squeeze gently untill all the fluid is out. Refill and > > > > > > > continue, it will all go in because the tank will hold 5 litres. After you > > > > > > > have done that you still might need to get the ecu reset because the 'Diesel > > > > > > > additive minimum' error will still keep appearing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Richard Swaby" wrote in message > > > > > > > news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com... > > > > > > > On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:08:55 GMT, "Brian" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just in case anyone wants to try refilling their diesel additive tank on > > > > > > > models with the particle filter, you might be interested in part numbers. > > > > > > > For early models pre vin 9491, using the Eolys DPX42 fluid, the > > > > > > > Peugeot/Citroen part number for the 4.5 litre top up kit is 9979.95. Now > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > painful bit - cost today from local Citroen dealer, £91.17 > > > > > > > The later models use Eolys 176, and I believe the part no for that is > > > > > > > 9736.86 for 3 litres. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've bought a top up kit from a Peugeot dealer. I consists of a 3 > > > > > > > litre bottle of the fluid, an empty 1 litre bottle, a tube and a tap. > > > > > > > Unfortunately there are no instructions. Can anyone please enlighten > > > > > > > me how to use it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > 49c] > > > > > 49c]MotorsForum website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.