Have you ever seen a 93 Opel Vectra (0/1)

Here are a few pics of the 93 Opel Vectra.

Now, IMO if you can make a Monaro/GTO out of this, you are in desperate need of eye attention, or you have a VERY vivid imagination.

If you need to look at any more pics, follow this link

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I would be very interested to hear comments from the general group.

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Red Baron
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Red Baron

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Red Baron

Yeah, you're right, the 99 Vectra is a closer match, only I have never seen a 2-door Vectra newer than like '95. Still in doubt though, it also looks like an '02 Opel Astra with a little longer trunk. Whatever model it looks like, the GTO is an Opel!

Reply to
Simon

Show me the evidence to back up this preposterous claim.

You won't.

Because there isn't any.

Reply to
Red Baron

I love stupid questions*, especially when they're easy. Here's your info:

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That might be too much reading for you, therefore a few lines from this page: "For a bit of trivia, the Australian Holden Monaro, on which the Pontiac GTO is based, is actually built on Holden's Commodore sedan chassis, which in turn is a stretched version of the German Opel Omega chassis. The rear-wheel-drive Opel Omega chassis dates back to the early 90s. And if you remember, the Cadillac Catera was a rebadged Omega with Cadiilac (sic!) styling cues. If you look hard enough, you will see Catera design cues on the GTO. This is information Pontiac would like to keep quiet about."

Still not convinced?? Just check:

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's Forbes, the magazine, quite respectable I believe! And this is whatthey say about the GTO:"Remember the Cadillac Catera? It's coming back.", and"But in the tangled world of modern carmaking, the next GTO will be based onan evolution of the same Opel Omega chassis as the ill-fated Catera." So, the GTO is an Opel from the early 90's. If you're not convinced, just buy a GTO and be happy with it, I'll just smile when you drive by in your Opel.

  • Although you technically did not ask a question, I still felt that you were looking for some additional information.
Reply to
Simon

So the Monaro/GTO is based on a great design that dates back to a 1993 Opel. Whats your point?

Reply to
Dennis Smith

And the Ford T-bird was a great design too, but kind of outdated. '93 is newer than the newest T-bird, but hey, how many '93s are still driving. Besides it's an Opel!! Opel was the company that didn't want freeways because their cars would not be able to handle the speeds. Pretty weird to buy an Opel Sportscar a few (=67) years later.

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Simon

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. The DEW98 platform that the LS, T-Bird and S-Type use started being developed in 1993

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and actually put into production in 99. But hey, if you wanna go and call a Jag S-Type, Lincoln LS or Ford T-Bird outdated, you go for it.

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Phillip Schmid

Are you serious???? My dad had a Opel GT in Germany from 1970-1974 and that thing would blast down the autobahn at 125MPH all day long with its little

1.3L 4 cyl engine.

We also had a Opel Kadet rental car in 1990 and that had NO problem doing

125MPH all day long too. The same can NOT be said for the American version the Pontiac Lemans, which is plagued by poor quality and badly running engines.
Reply to
Dennis Smith

Yeah, I said T-bird, not Thunder bird! Don't matter if some people refer to it as T bird, a T-bird is a 50s/60s Ford!

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Simon

You could just have said 'Opel Omega Lotus' because that is the fastest (production) family sedan in the world (BMW M5 is limited to 155 mph, the Omega Lotus could do 175mph). Does this mean Opel is an expert in fast cars?? No, only 1100 were made, guess why!

The GT story doesn't add up, first of all, my 1.8L Opel Vectra maxed out at about 125MPH, pretty amazing if an older smaller engine could go that fast. Second, the GT came with a 1.0 and 1.9 liter engine (GT/J also had 1.9L engine). Third, the fasted (production) GT was the diesel GT, maxing out at

122 MPH. So, the only option is your dad was coming down the Alps or had a non-production version.

About your rental car, the Kadett 2.0 GSI could do 125 MPH, but doesn't have a lot left and besides, this is not the normal car you would expect at a car rental place.

So, what was your point?

Reply to
Simon

It's the same name isn't it? By your logic you couldn't call a new Corvette a Vette, even though it embodies the same thing that the early ones did. Sure nothing is the same.

Remember that the first T-Birds were supposed to be sports cars, from 55-57. In 58-60 and maybe even longer it was a luxury car. So which group exactly are you talking about with your 50/60s?

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Phillip Schmid

There was no logic to it, I just tried to explain that a very good concept a few years ago might not be so good compared to current standards.

Does it matter?? It was a good car at the time, but I'm sure you're expecting a lot more from your current car. Don't come back with collectors and stuff, comfort, speed, safety, fuel economy are just no match anymore. Probably fewer problems with a '93 Opel, but hopefully you're getting the point now.

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Simon

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