When the Japanese Take over the the US Auto Industry the US will have Hell to pay

I love used car buyers. If it were not for those waiting to buy my used vehicles it would cost me a lot more to buy my new cars. Now if I could only find somebody to by all of my wife's used clothing and furniture, that she now gives away, I could save a small fortune LOL

mike hunt

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Mike Hunter
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You those same americans who are BUILDING the 'japanese' cars in American factories ? sure. I think japanese cars are more american these days than american cars. Mexico, Canada.. you name it, they all built there.

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RT

Dont expect that you are going to see the under belly of Japan just because you lived there for 3 years. Do some studying on how Japan developed its cars for the US market place.

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Booboo Baker

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Randy Taylor

No! Don't look! You'll hurt your eyes!

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dh

No lawyers, good business financial planners. Yes they obviously were looking short term and gave it to the unions when money was flowing in. Unfortunately GM places too much emphasis on volume of sales, but GMAC loves big sales.

As for the Aztec, I still can't stand it. I feel almost as negative about the Chrysler 300 styling.

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Spam Hater

The brilliance you display is the kind that got GM and Ford into the rough waters they are in now. I urge you to get rid of it soon as you can.

Now, here is what Toyota really thinks of its situation. Fellow who runs Toyota USA in the April MT (he an gringo ex-Ford guy) says that while Toyota is #4 in the U.S. market, they run the company as if they were #8. When times are good, they figure that means that big trouble is on the way. In the best of times they strive for a small percentage increase in sales. When times re bad they strive for a small percentage increase in sales. As for the Koreans, Toyota has nothing but respect for them and how quickly they have come so far. Further down the line, the Chinese are coming. Toyota runs scared all the time...and there is plenty to be scared about...with or without GM/Ford. I sure wish, as a GM share-holder, that GM would hire a whole bunch of ex-Toyota execs to run the company.

I urge you to drive on down to your library and read the interview. It is highly informative.

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GRL

What utter and complete nonsense. The Japanese automobile customer does not tolerate poor quality. If they did, the several attempts by GM to export cars in numbers to Japan would have succeeded and not failed miserably like they have.

You cannot possibly actually believe what you wrote.

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GRL

OK, I bow to no one in my contempt for idiotic past GM management (can you say R-o-g-e-r S-m-i-t-h), but to be fair what these clowns were trying to do was buy a degree of labor peace (get longer term contracts avoiding the threat of costly annual strikes) with money and benefits that they could not afford long term. The UAW always had an ace up its sleeve. They could strike one manufacturer, while it's members in the other two kept paying dues that went into strike pay for the strikers. Plus, as I recall - may be wrong, the strikers could get unemployment benefits from the government. Pretty good stacking of the deck against the manufacturer, no?

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GRL

I know I can't believe the crap that has come from your keyboard tonight.

*PLONK*
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Bob

Would be if it were true. I guess you're not above posting bullshit, either.

Dave

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Hairy

Remember, that Japan restricts the entry of foreign automobile into their country. It is extremely difficult to enter the Japanese market, unlike the US.

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E. BOROWICZ

Bob, you need to do a bit of research about auto ownership in Japan.

Japan requires very strict vehicle inspections. As a result, vehicles in Japan are usually scrapped after they are about 6 years old, because it's not cost effective to repair them. And we are talking they get out the micrometers to measure bearing wear.

Why is it done this way? Well, the vehicle manufacturers have pressured the government into this so as to force obsolescense and sell a lot more cars.

Also, the Japanese culture and people are such that the culture prefers home grown products over imports. Keep in mind that it hasn't yet been a century since Japan lost to the United States in WWII. And this is a culture that one of their biggest festivals - Obon - takes a week and it's sole purpose is to honor deceased ancestors. A lot of Japanese feel subconsciously that buying American is dishonoring ancestors who were killed in WWII or fought Americans in WWII.

In the United States the culture is completely different than in Japan. It is very common for Americans to project their culture on everyone else. It is doubtful in the US for example that anyone under the age of 20 could even tell you if any of their grandparents fought in WWII let alone which ones. This is a strength of the American culture because it makes it a lot easier for us to forgive and forget and move on with life. But it puts blinders on us when we try to understand other cultures, particularly ones that have many many thousands of years of history. You must understand that the Japanese culture is very very different than the US. This is, after all, a society where 30% of the homes have toilets that cost $1000 and have computers in them. (and I'm not talking computers that you type on, if you want to see a Japanese toilet control panel see here:

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) Ted

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Ted Mittelstaedt

First of all, it is not easy to gain entry to the U.S. market. Their are EPA and NHTSA hurdles that are significant...like crashing cars and gathering data.

I do not know that the equivalent Japanese restrictions are harder or easier, but there is also the matter of them driving on the other side of the road from us. I do know that the restrictions were eased years ago from what they were. I doubt that they ever had a 25% tariff on pick-up trucks like we did for years, by way of comparison.

European brands do quite well in Japan because owning something like a Bimmer or Merc is very prestigious in Japan. Few American brands are considered prestigious and most of what the U.S. brands have been making is simply too large to sell in Japan. The country is very congested, streets are narrow, and your typical U.S. truck or medium sized sedan or mini-van would not fit there. Eve if the quality were of a level that they are used to.

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GRL

What's the "bullshit"?

You like Roger Smith?

Reply to
GRL

Or is this what you mean by "bullshit"?

"Under New York State law, at least, workers faced with an unyielding employer during a strike can qualify for unemployment insurance benefits after seven weeks, giving them a greater economic ability to sustain themselves during long labor disputes."

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GRL

Plus, as I recall - may be wrong,

This would be the specific thing that I was talking about. You seem to think you know everything, so I assume you *knew* it was false when you typed it.

Dave

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Hairy

Hmmm...I wonder how many UAW auto plants there are in New York.

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Hairy

Hey, if there was only one, at the time, it's still true. I would guess that the same sort of thing was true in rust-belt states with strong Democrat leanings. Don't know for sure.

I don't know everything, but I do know a lot about cars and the car business from being an avid car buff since I was 1966 and from having read newspapers through the years. When I am less than sure about a point of fact, I say I'm not sure. Opinions are opinions, but things presented as fact should have more than an opinion behind them and that's what I try to provide.

Have a nice day.

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GRL

I'll bow to your greater experience since you have 1910 years on me. ;-)

Dave

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Hairy

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