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Yeah, but it's a plug-in to an AC outlet option. So maybe they need to have a miles-per-kilowatt designation too?
Plugging into some outlet for maybe $3 a night won't come cheap. Less petrol in the car, but have you gained anything?
B~
I haven't done the math myself, but I read somewhere the cost using household electricity was equivalent to gas at .90 gallon.
Soon those of us who are curious can find out.
Bob Wilson
Then if you top off the batteries at night the electric rates are usually much lower at night.
I have doubts about the Li-ion battery. Russel Frost of the Prius Owners Group recently wrote to (unnamed) Toyota's National Manager for Advanced Technology Vehicles, and posted parts of her response on
I don't understand the part about a "power supply" at first, then a few years down the road as an "energy storage device." I guess it means Li-ion can be used as a supplement to NiMH to allow plug-in capability (maybe as an option?) and that it is hoped to be a replacement for NiMH in five years. Only a guess.
Mike
Thank you for the info Michael.
My guess:
Power supply = source for power for the electric propulsion motor in the current Prius design.
Energy storage device = place where electricity is stored, either from the grid (plug-in hybrid) or from a hydrogen power souce (all hydrogen-powered vehicles are really EVs with an on-board generator).
I still would be leary of any 2008 predictions. Toyota's longest lead on the upcoming Prius was for the 2004 model year, announcing it in March/April 2003 at an auto show, for an October delivery (pre-orders didn't start until July). (and 2003 Prius sales plummeted partially because of the announcement...) Speculative 2006 info was only released around May 2005, official info in Nov. 2005 (about when the
2006s started arriving).I also would be leary of any MPG predictions, as that would really depend on the test course used to estimate MPG, and the type of gallons used (US or Imperial?). for example:
US 2005 EPA ratings are 60MPG city, 51MPG highway, 55MPG combined. For comparison units: City = 3.9l/100km or 72MPG Imperial or 25.5km/l Highway = 4.6l/100km or 61MPG Imperial or 21.7km/l Combined = 4.2l/100km or 66MPG Imperial or 23.4km/l
Ah - that makes more sense.
Mike
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