Toyota loses its way

My two Toyota's were the best cars I've ever owned and I've owned quite a few big three plus VW in my 67 years. I will buy another another Toyota without question.

Same here. My wife and I have owned a '52 Plymouth, '60 VW Bug, '62 Corvair Monza, '65 Mustang conv. 289 CID 4 speed, '69 Grand Torino, '74 Gremlin, '79 Pinto Cruising Wagon, '84(?) Bronco II, '89(?) Saturn, '91 Camry, '?? T-Bird, '99 Mazda Tribute, '2004 4Runner, 2004 Highlander, and a 2008 Avalon. Couple of others in that mix I don't remember. The Toyotas were the least troublesome by far.

Ed Maier

You, uh, don't still have this, do you...?

God no.

Ed Maier

Why?!? Those were cool little cars. I had a '66, three on the...er...yeah.

It's problems were more than my technical capabilities at the time.

However, if I had it now, I would have one cool Corvair. (I live about 10 miles from the place in Mass that remanufactures Corvair parts...)

My '62 Monza had a tendency to "float" at speeds above 65 MPH. Seemed like there was a lag in steering response at that speed, too. Never did find out what caused it. Not sure anyone else had the same problem, but it was very disconcerting.

Ed Maier

I had one Toyota and one datun and they were both junk. My sister in law had a Datsun and it was junk. They just don't hold up under hard driving. They are made for little old ladies who will never push them.

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I wouldn't call Mitsubishi small, it might not make a lot of cars (though I do remember it's board of directors being hauled before a court for knowingly allowing new cars to be sold with faulty brakes) but they have fingers in lots of pies.

>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza>>

Bullshit. Toyotas love to be driven hard.

You can't equate "hard driving" with "total abuse".

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The name Datsun changed to Nissan hear over 25 years ago.

My 60 was Very susceptible to crosswinds at highway speeds. Might be the same thing you are referring too. Still, I regularly drove it at

80 mph between Phx and LA.

>>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza>>>

Maybe in your experience, certainly not in mine. A few full throttle shifts was all the AT in the Tercel could take. it was never the same after.

I never abuse a car.

>>>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza>>>>

Never happened to me. 1995 Tercel CX, used to drive it at 50 everywhere,

80 on the highway.

Obviously, if you managed to damage a Toyota transmission, which are usually rated 50 HP minimum, and sometimes up to 100 above it's application, you do.

>>>>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza>>>>>

i think you need to account for the "bullshit" factor - anyone can write all kinds of garbage on usenet - doesn't mean they've got the slightest intention of representing the truth.

>>>>> ta-loses-its-way#ixzz0fHiJSPza>>>>>

And that has exactly zero to do with their durability under full throttle shifts.

Believe whatever you want. You clearly are a Toyota apologist, just like Jim beam.

And I think you're just plain full of crap.

You had to really abise that car to damage the transmission, so either it didn't happen, and you're just telling tales, or you didn't do the proper maintenance on the car, and that damaged the trans, or you held it manually in one gear too long.

I did full throttle shifts with mine, too and never had a problem. Besides that, it's a TERCEL, not a Corolla GTS or a Supra. If you want that kind of performance, unass some ducats and get a car more suitable to your driving style

You have got to be kidding...

I'd bet it's at least 3 to 1.

I'd say thats about right. 3 Toy repairs for every 1 Ford repair.

Go read the JD power data and covert it to defects per CAR, not per

100 cars, and you'll see just how little actual difference there is between any of the cars in the top half of the food chain.