About to look at a 9000 Aero which has had engine and gearbox replaced. How do I tell if the engine they've put in is a true 225bhp engine not a 2.3lpt?
I have driven diesels for last six years, so even a lowly 2.0lpt would seem fast to me...
Al
Al wrote: :: About to look at a 9000 Aero which has had engine and gearbox :: replaced. How do I tell if the engine they've put in is a true :: 225bhp engine not a 2.3lpt?
The HPT is 200 Bhp - not 225. 225 Bhp is what the Aero's got.
Cheers!
Henrik B. wrote: :: Al wrote: :::: About to look at a 9000 Aero which has had engine and gearbox :::: replaced. How do I tell if the engine they've put in is a true :::: 225bhp engine not a 2.3lpt? :: :: The HPT is 200 Bhp - not 225. 225 Bhp is what the Aero's got.
Doh! My mistake, read the post to fast. :o)
About the enigine, check the VIN-number here:
How will that help if the engine has been replaced? The VIN will only show what should be there. Question remains, what's the way to tell an Aero engine from anything else or is it all in the ECU and turbo?
From 9000 Quick Ref. Parts Manual ENGINE Numbers 1990> (NB NOT VIN numbers) Number Position.
1 B=Petrol 2/3 20=2L 23=2.3L 30=3L 4 Cylinder Head 2=Twin Cam 4=Twin Cam + 2 Balance Shafts 8=6 Cylinder 5 I=Injection E=LPT L=Normal Turbo R=High Pressure Turbo 6 =Emission Control Level??? 7 A=Auto M=Manual 8/9 =Varient 10 =year L=90 M=91 N=92 P=93 R=94 S=95 T=96 rest = serial number
It's mostly in the ECU program. The Aero engine is essentially the same as a 2.3 hpt. The easiest way to tell would be to drive it. There should be some small amount of delay, then boost should go up into the red and the car should take off like a rocket. If you don't feel the delay and/or the boost only goes to mid gauge, then things are not as they would have you believe.
BTW, an automatic 9000 Aero is 225HP, the manual trans 9000 Aero engine makes 250. Again, just different APC ECU programming.
-Fred W
No, a 9000 Aero manual is 225, the auto is 200.
In addition to what Fred says, the LPT (CS) and HPT (CSE) have Garrett turbos (T30?) and the Aero has a Mitsubishi turbo TD04. It is labeled on the tag. The garretts generally have 'garrett' cast in the compressor scroll. The only other difference is the ECU. The only difference between the CS lpt and the CSE HPT is that ECU, again, and the CS does NOT have a Boost pressure control solenoid on the top left corner of the fan shroud. The engines and turbo are identical. As far as I know, this is for the 2.3L CS series cars 95-98 as sold in the US. In 93 and 94, you could get a CS (and possibly CSE) with the NA engine, lpt engine or an HPT engine. There were 2.0 and 2.3 cars in Europe and I do not know about them.
KeithG
Fred W. wrote:
Oh man, you're right. I don't know where the heck that bit of disinformation came from... someplace deep in the recesses of my malfunctioning gray matter. It seems I have CRS bad these days...
-Fred W
An 'Aero auto' is a 'CSE auto' as far as the engine is concerned. That is ECU program and turbo. It has a Garrett turbo instead of the mitsu. The mitsu is only on the 'Aero' and by that I mean 'Aero 5sp'.
KeithG
David Taylor wrote:
B=Benzin in Swedish language?
S=?
No. It is "Bensin".
So "Gasoline" = "Bensin" for us USA'ers ?
I want to fill my car Swedish style!
Yes, bensin is gasoline and diesel is diesel.
We use a different method (RON) to determine oktan (octane), so you have to change the labels on the pump to "95 oktan", "96 oktan" and "98 oktan". You should feed a Saab HPT engine from the "98 oktan" pump.
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