I have a 93 saturn sc2. The car drives great and runs well going down the road. However when i press the clutch in when i am fixing to come to a red light etc.. It dies every time. I have done a code check on it and the codes were 23 & 45. I am going to take it in and have the professionals run a diagnostic on it however , before i did that i wanted post here to see if maybe someone else has had this problem and knew exactly what could cause this. I am thinking a fuel mixture problem but i am not sure.
road. However when i press the clutch in when i am fixing to come to a red light etc.. It dies every time. I have done a code check on it and the codes were 23 & 45. I am going to take it in and have the professionals run a diagnostic on it however , before i did that i wanted post here to see if maybe someone else has had this problem and knew exactly what could cause this. I am thinking a fuel mixture problem but i am not sure.
I would suspect that the clutch pedal is rubbing against a cable under the dash. The insulation is probably worn through.
Here is a TSB that could be similar to what you're seeing. It doesn't call out your year of car, but it's similar in symptoms...
Engine - No Crank/Various Instrument MIL Lights ON
BULLETIN NO.: 98-T-22
ISSUE DATE: July, 1998
GROUP/SEQ. NO.: Electrical-03
CORPORATION NO.: 887202
SUBJECT:
Engine will not Crank, MIL and ABS Light On, Park Lamps Inoperative, Fuel Gauge Inoperative, and/or Radio Speaker Inoperative (Repair Wire Harness)
MODELS AFFECTED:
1996-1998 Saturns equipped with MP2/MP3 manual transaxles
CONDITION:
The customer may comment that on occasion, one or more of the following conditions may have occurred:
^ Engine will not crank
^ Malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) (SERVICE ENGINE SOON lamp) On with or without inoperative fuel gauge
^ Anti-lock brake system (ABS) light On
^ Park lamps inoperative
One of more of the radio speakers inoperative
CAUSE
IMPORTANT :The I/P harness contains approximately 100 circuits that are routed above the clutch pedal. It would be difficult to list all circuits contained in the harness and their respective failure modes associated with a short to ground. Based on the manufacturing process of the I/P harness, and the location of certain circuits in the harness, the circuits listed in this bulletin have the highest probability of potentially coming into contact with the clutch pedal pivot bolt/clip.
IMPORTANT :If the vehicle is equipped with an MP2/MP3 transaxle. and a difficult to diagnose electrical condition exits, inspect the harness above the clutch pedal pivot.
The cause of the above conditions may be the Instrument Panel wire harness coming into contact with the clutch pedal pivot bolt/clip causing a short to ground on the following circuit (s):
road. However when i press the clutch in when i am fixing to come to a red light etc.. It dies every time. I have done a code check on it and the codes were 23 & 45. I am going to take it in and have the professionals run a diagnostic on it however , before i did that i wanted post here to see if maybe someone else has had this problem and knew exactly what could cause this. I am thinking a fuel mixture problem but i am not sure.
It depends on which wire of that cable has been damaged. If it's a wire related to the correct functioning of the ignition or fuel system, it could happen any time the clutch is pushed in.
We're NOT talking about the starter interlock switch related to pushing in the clutch - we're talking about the clutch pedal cutting into a bundle of wires that could be doing almost anything.
As i said in my previous post we got two codes 23 & 45 Both of these said something about rich mixture etc.. Also this would explain why my coolant light steadily flashes but my car is not running hot.
hmmm something to think about..
Thank you so much .. i am going to take it to the shop this tuesday 1/13/04 and let them run diagnostics on it .. I will let you guys know what i do or dont find out.. wish me luck !!
well i took it to the Saturn dealer .. They replaced a MAT sensor and a Coolant temp sensor.. They said this would cause the car to run rich therefore not being able to hold idle at low speeds..
The flashing coolant resevoir is low light.. we discovered that the whole wire was cut and not even plugged in..
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