Brake pedal goes to floor sometimes

1993 Saturn Myabe one time in 20 the brake pedal will go way low, orherwise they are good. Normally don't have any pull or anything, no clue. Any idea what this could be or any way to isolate the problem? Thanks, Dave
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John Doe
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I thought I was loosing a master cyl on my 97 a couple of years ago with symptoms as you describe, and the dealer did a fluid flush and all was fine again.

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Jonnie Santos

Are you loosing any brake fluid? Does the car have ABS? Might be the master cylinder is getting an intermittent leak. There might also be crud in the fluid. It's a good idea (since brake fluid absorbs water and goes bad) to flush out the entire brake system with fresh fluid every few years. Open the right rear brake bleeder and put a hose on it and into a jar of brake fluid (or use a check valve) and pump the brakes slowly. Just don't want to suck air back into the system. When the reservoir is nearly empty, fill it with fresh fluid and continue pumping until you get clear fluid at the bleed end. Keep adding fluid and bleed remaining brakes untill you get clear fluid out of all the ports.. Maybe you'll get lucky that it was a rust flake that was keeping the piston from sealing completely. Oh, and be sure to use the manufacturer's recommended fluid (DOTx) to protect the seals.

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Oppie

Two people in one thread saying "loosing". C'mon people, you went to grade school!! :)

lose (looz)v. lost (lost, lost). los-ing, los-es.v. tr. 1. To be unsuccessful in retaining possession of; mislay: He's always losing his keys on the way out the door. 2. To come to be deprived of the ownership, care, or control of (something one has had), as by negligence, accident, or theft: I've lost three umbrellas this year. Britain lost its American colonies in a revolution. To be deprived of (something one has had): lost their lives; lost her youth through hardship. To be bereaved of: lost his wife. To be unable to keep alive: a doctor who has lost very few patients. 3. To be unable to maintain, sustain, or keep: lost everything in the stock market crash; is losing supporters by changing his mind. 4. To fail to win; fail in: lost the game; lost the court case. 5. To fail to use or take advantage of: Don't lose a chance to improve your position. 6. To fail to hear, see, or understand: We lost the plane in the fog. I lost her when she started speaking about thermodynamics. 7. To let (oneself) become unable to find the way. To remove (oneself), as from everyday reality into a fantasy world. 8. To rid oneself of: lost five pounds. 9. To consume aimlessly; waste: lost a week in idle occupations. 10. To stray or wander from: lose one's way. 11. To elude or outdistance: lost their pursuers. To be outdistanced by: chased the thieves but lost them. 12. To become slow by (a specified amount of time). Used of a timepiece. 13. To cause or result in the loss of: Failure to reply to the advertisement lost her the job. 14. To cause to be destroyed. Usually used in the passive: Both planes were lost in the crash. 15. To cause to be damned.v. intr.

  1. To suffer loss. 2. To be defeated. 3. To operate or run slow. Used of a timepiece. --phrasal verb. lose out. To fail to achieve or receive an expected gain. --idiom. lose out on. To miss (an opportunity, for example). lose time. 4. To operate too slowly. Used of a timepiece. 5. To delay advancement.[Middle English losen, from Old English losian, to perish, from los, loss. See leu-.]

loose (loos)adj. loos-er, loos-est. 1. Not fastened, restrained, or contained: loose bricks. 2. Not taut, fixed, or rigid: a loose anchor line; a loose chair leg. 3. Free from confinement or imprisonment; unfettered: criminals who were loose in the neighborhood; dogs that are loose on the streets. 4. Not tight-fitting or tightly fitted: loose shoes. 5. Not bound, bundled, stapled, or gathered together: loose papers. 6. Not compact or dense in arrangement or structure: loose gravel. 7. Lacking a sense of restraint or responsibility; idle: loose talk. 8. Lacking conventional moral restraint in sexual behavior. 9. Not literal or exact: a loose translation. 10. Characterized by a free movement of fluids in the body: a loose cough; loose bowels.adv. In a loose manner.v. loosed, loos-ing, loos-es.v. tr. 1. To let loose; release: loosed the dogs. 2. To make loose; undo: loosed his belt. 3. To cast loose; detach: hikers loosing their packs at camp. 4. To let fly; discharge: loosed an arrow. 5. To release pressure or obligation from; absolve: loosed her from the responsibility. 6. To make less strict; relax: a leader's strong authority that was loosed by easy times.v. intr. 1. To become loose. 2. To discharge a missile; fire. --idiom. on the loose. 3. At large; free. 4. Acting in an uninhibited fashion.[Middle English louse, los, from Old Norse lauss. See leu-.]--loose'ly adv.

--loose'ness n.SYNONYM: loose, lax, slack The central meaning shared by these adjectives is "not tautly bound, held, or fastened": loose reins; a lax rope; slack sails.ANTONYM: tight

--------------------------------------------------------- Excerpted from American Heritage Talking Dictionary Copyright © 1997 The Learning Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

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Lane

...but it has a long 'Oh' sound. No wonder that foreigners have such problems learning English. We folks that use it as our primary language still have difficulty with all the rules. Ok, so once again, mea culpa.

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Oppie

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