If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car

I expect GM to survive in one form or another. But if GM drops or stops the Saturn brand, I am done with GM cars and so is the rest of the family. We have been loyal Saturn car owners and have found them superior and different than other GM cars. We have owned six Saturn vehicles over the years having bought two last year. If Saturn goes, so will our GM loyalty. In other words GM, you orphan me, then I will orphan you. I knew that idiot Obama would screw this up. Only his inexperience could take a bad situation and make it worse.

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if they were so good, then explain why you needed to buy so many saturns ?

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raamman

GM has killed Saturn, not Obama.

Chris '92 SL1 '00 SL1

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I think the reason for the choices are pretty logical. Chevy, for the low end/cost, Buick for the Mid-range and Cadillac for the upper, with GMC rebadged selected sampling versions from the 3 for optional/upper trim levels. Pontiac seems like it was kind of that mish-mosh of selections and loyalty that did not really have a concrete hold on customers. In addition, the brand fit in-between Chevy's low and Buick's mid-level offering, so killing it seems to make sense.

As far as Saturn, in my opinion they drifted from the original concept of what it was supposed to be years ago and killed what made Saturn a Saturn. They also took too long to develop a follow up car to their original success of the S-series. Getting rid of the polymer sides and going with rebadged Opel's in my opinion was the killer for me. My '06 Vue was my first and last GM product...

IYM

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Correction: My '06 Vue was my first "new" GM vehicle. I bought a used '94 SL2 in '01 that I put 100k miles on, and traded it for the Vue when it had

205k miles on it due to another family addition. (I needed something with more room). It was my success with that SL2 that convinced me to buy another Saturn product....
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I bought a Saturn SL in 1994. Drove it for five years before trading it in for another one. Kept it for four years, but traded it in for a Jeep Wrangler in 2005.

Bought an SL1 for my daughter in 2000 as I recall. She totaled the vehicle, but it saved her life.

So, bought second Saturn SL1 to replace it. Almost identical except for the year.

She drove that for 5 years and then we traded it in for a VUE (2008). In the process of evaluating the VUE, she and I test drove an Aura. I liked it so much, we bought it as a third car.

Does that answer your questi> >> I expect GM to survive in one form or another. But if GM drops or stops

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And exactly what do you think the Democrats did to cause that? Did they deregulate the banking industry? No, that was the neocons. Did they raise taxes? No, the Bush tax cuts remain in force to this day. Did they deflate the housing bubble? No, bubbles deflate on their own. Did they waste a trillion dollars (and thousands of lives) in Iraq? No, that was the neocons again.

Consumer confidence just jumped by the most in four years.

There are signs it is working, but it is really too early to tell.

Typical neocon tactic: repeat your own misinformation until someone believes it. Have you noticed this isn't working anymore? (Hint: look at the party controlling the legislative and executive branches.)

If Obama hadn't bailed them out, GM and Chrysler would be in liquidation now. (And yes, I know the difference between bankruptcy and liquidation and I choose my words advisedly.)

Whereas Bush took a healthy economy with a budget surplus and put it in the toilet while giving big tax breaks to his rich friends.

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What did they do to *prevent* the crisis? What did they even

*propose*? They, afterall, controlled all legislation.

Irony anyone?

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nobody

Tell me what the Dems did to prevent the crisis instead of dodging.

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nobody

To the degree the crisis was precipitated by the crisis in mortgage-backed securities in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac due to the deflation of the housing bubble, the Dems reportedly resisted the Bush administration's attempt to address the lack of guidelines for those organizations. In addition, Dems (admittedly with either encouragement or, at least, little resistance from Repubs, including neocons) tend to have promoted policies and an atmosphere that encouraged lending at levels we now recognize were beyond the means of some borrowers. To those with short memories about the Bush tax cuts: Bush inheritied a contracting economy (admittedly not nearly as bad as that his successor faces) and his tax cuts were followed by what appears to have been a strong recovery. Besides, tax cuts are a good thing in and of themselves, IMHO, because they tend to result in smaller government (thus less spoils for crooked politicians and "special interests").

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SteveT

I suggest we go one step further, change the constitution and install Obama as Emperor of USA. All our problems will be over. Are we that stupid?

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Georg

Where the HELL did he ever say that he NEEDED to buy that or any amount?? So many look to be negative and don't stick to the facts... Just proves each and every time where they're coming from and what they are all about...

if they were so good, then explain why you needed to buy so many saturns ?

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