Apparently Saturn of Long Island City has gone out of business, closing their showroom and service center. Where have the records for the repairs on our cars gone? As for finding a service center in case I need parts, I did a search on Saturn's website and the closest dealerships are in Harlem or Bay Ridge Brooklyn. I thought there was a Saturn Dealership in Jamaica on Sutphin Blvd I think. When you call the Saturn LIC service number, it just says that the number is disconnected. You would think that Saturn would leave some forwarding address where it's customers can find the closest service dept. I'm shocked that they closed and shocked that they just left their customers like this.
All the maintenance done at any Saturn dealership goes into some central computer repository and any other dealer can call it up instantly from their terminal. This was pretty nifty stuff 16 or 17 years ago...
I think it's more than just one. The company that owned that dealership in LIC also owned some in the Bronx and elseweher in Queens. I'll bet those are gone too.
what's up with Saturn? Are they going the way of the Oldsmobile? GM is really doing badly and I'll bet Saturn is suffering form the effects of that.
I think GM missed the boat on building Hybrids. I think those are the way of the future. Toyota seems to be doing well with them.
I like my 97SC2 a lot but I would have to think twice about buying another Saturn if the dealerships are closing down. Also, I would like my next car to be a hybrid. 60mpg is hard to turn down.
GM's is going about some assnine way of shaking up the unions. A 130+ billion dollar company doesnt simply vanish. What they need is employee's to start paying a copay when they see a doctor etc. You wont believe how badly GM's benefits get ripped off everytime a GM employee sets foot in a hospital.
The way of the future to screw you over. 2 totally different systems crammed into already cramped vehicles. Oh yeah sure I'll work on them, the question is are you ready to pay out the ass for them?
The EPA ratings don't exceed 55mph. Hybrid motors do not operate above
55mph. Once you get on the highway and do real highway speeds in a vehicle thats now 1000 pounds heavier you can kiss those epa numbers good bye.
Compair any hybrid to its gas only counterpart. On average you would have to drive 100,000 MILES before you even start saving the price difference with gas at $3 dollars a gallon. The whole point behind saving gas is to "save money". Not to save gas. Why no one see's this point is beyond me. I'll say again, the point behind good gas mileage is to save money, brand new hybrids sure as hell wont save you a dime. If you want to save money and get good gas mileage as well, buy a Feiro. I've seen super looking Feiro's for under a grand. Think of the money that could be saved!!! You can drive a million miles on those savings! . . . Ethanol, Hydrogen, and displacement on demand, those are the future...
Saturn of Smithtown moved and is now Saturn of Medford. They closed the Smithtown store as there was no room for inventory, as well as the road it was on was horrible. They lost more than a couple of new cars bought by people not familiar with the car trying to get out on that road for the first time with it. In Medford they have a huge lot, a brand new building and their own traffic light. I also believe Saturn of Sunrise moved to become Saturn of Massapequa, but I could be wrong.
Anyway, like I said the just built Saturn of Medford last year, and I was there getting a service 3 weeks ago and asked why they had two used Mercedes in the showroom as well as the Saturns. The sales guy showed me the lot and said they ran out of inventory and were expecting a new delivery that day, so they needed to throw something in the showroom and they had a couple 2 year old coupes that were just traded in as well as a Hummer (my guess is the owners overextended themselves or something). I had been there only a week before and the lot was full, so the product is moving out from there I guess...
I was just looking at the April Consumer Reports - not one domestic car in their Top 10 picks! First time that has happened. The "Big 3" better smarten up real quick. I know people who said PanAm couldn't go under. There was also a "dollars & sense" analysis of hybrids in this issue. You will NOT be buying a hybrid after reading this article. And don't be holding your breath for those fuel cell vehicles. Re: Saturn
- we still have three S-series in the family - I don't think they are building them that well anymore. If you look at the Consumer's reliability ratings, Saturns have many more black spots than the Japmobiles. If they do away with the polymer body panels I won't have any reason to buy another Saturn. And trying to bring Saturn back into the "fold" was a VERY bad idea. (Note: Saturn of Sunrise did NOT move to Massapequa.)
To counterbalance that, 2 of CR's 10 top picks were hybrids - the Toyota Prius and Highlander Hybrid. And, in the printed magazine issue, they got the math wrong in that analysis by figuring depreciation in twice or something. On the website you'll see they've corrected it.
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Yes - I think some older ones still come out as reasonable used cars, like our '98 SW2, but current Saturns seemed to do pretty unimpressively against the competition from CR's point of view. No doubt there'll be plenty of people disagreeing, though.
And a ship the size of the Titanic could never sink.
GM has a market cap of about $13B, about the same as Campbell Soup. GM is a $22 dollar stock that lost $15/share last year. They have huge debt and are now paying big time interest due to their junk bond credit rating. If this is a master plan to save money by eliminating debt through bankruptcy, they are right on course.
If I was in charge of GM I would put all of my diminishing political sway behind universal health care. Might not be enough to save you but at least you would be fondly remembered.
Even with the correction, most of the hybrids still leave you in the "red" after 5 years.
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the ones that don't are virtually a "break-even" investment.U.S. News has drawn the same conclusion . . .
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don't like buying a conventional vehicle at the beginning of a newmodel year because of the wrinkles that aren't ironed out yet. I thinkit will be at least 10 years before I have enough confidence in hybridsto take the plunge. And they better be better than a "break-even"scenario by then.
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