2008 Tribeca?

I located a good condition 2008 Tribeca from a dealership. They say it was a leased vehicle that was returned. Only problem with it is a shake during braking, which the dealer has already said they'll replace the brakes before selling. Any other gotchas with Tribecas? The 2008 seems to be still the modern body-style, it looks like.

Also for the Canadians on here, especially the Quebecers. The salesman says they need a deposit before beginning work on the brakes, so I can go take it to an independent garage for a safety check. He said in Quebec they are obligated to refund the deposit if I don't take the vehicle. Is this true? I'm inclined to just take the car in for the inspection with the shaky brakes, since I already know about them.

Yousuf Khan

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Yousuf Khan
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There are probably slim odds of your finding another Quebecer on this group, so I'd suggest you check elsewhere for an answer to that very important question before you hand over any money. If it's a hassle to contact the branch of the Quebec government that regulates auto dealerships, and you can't find the information on their website, do you perhaps belong to an auto club that could help you?

Patty

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Patty Winter

What would conceivably be the point of requiring a deposit if they were going to simply, unconditionally return the full amount to you with no obligation whatsoever on your part?

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Heron

The general rule of thumb is that the used car lot won't do a thing to the car unless you have an offer to purchase signed. You can be sure your deposit is toast if you renege on the deal.

Note that the used car dealer is obligated to provide you a working car in good condition. Be sure to note tire condition, brakes or any other maintenance items - they are obligated to provide like new replacements if the parts are worn out at the time of sale.

Given it is likely a dealer maintained car, ask to see the service record. Check for recurring complaints about the brakes. Due diligence, is all.

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Orange Stick

Yes. 5/6 speed is not an option. Meaning that the automatic transmission has to be overbuilt to allow for towing to happen (hint: google for tribeca oil cooler).

And overbuilt automatic means you have extra weight to lug around. Which does not help the fuel economy.

But given how miniscule is the market for a 6+ pot engines coupled to a manual on the north american continent and how poor is the manually tranny feels in all subarus short of BRZ FHI made a smart choice not bothering dragging the H6+5sp combo through the EPA.

I'm not even sure if it's available with a manual around here in urop

(seeing a town&country with a diesel and a stick was a revelation lately :)

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AD

Well, I'm not really going to be doing much towing, but that's good info to know. Are you saying that one should add an oil cooler to the Tribecas to do any serious towing, or are you saying that the oil coolers that are already built-in but are prone to failure?

Also although it's not a feature on the Tribeca that I'm looking at, how do the new CVT's compare to the old autos?

Are there manual Tribecas available elsewhere in the world? Not that it matters, I'm at an age where I don't want a manual anymore. My first 3 cars all had manual trannies, and I'm determined to not own another one again. Some of the old advantages of manuals have been turned around on modern autos.

Does the BRZ use a Toyota manual tranny? I've been driving this 5speed OBW for ages now, and even after all of this time I still can't get a smooth consistent shift out of it. It's not the tranny itself really, I blame the clutch.

A Chrysler Town & Country?

Yousuf Khan

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Yousuf Khan

I don't know what's the reliability record for tribeca oil coolers is. But I suspect having one extra cooler statistically does not help reliability.

dunno. won't be surprised in one bit if they are not

Yeah. When you as a manufacturer (FHI) spend hardly any effort to improve the stick on your mainstream cars (BRZ obviously is not) then it's no wonder that the clientele is flocking to the automatics.

There are manuals and then there are MANUALS and there is a grand canyon between the two if you know what I mean

probably. the reviews are very positive about the shifting feel

what could I say: play with the transmission fluid

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i recently found out it makes the world of the difference

should've heeded the audi guideline to replace the fluid only when doing the tranny overhaul

my thinking was: BP synthetic 75w90 would work just dandy

British Petroleum and Synthetic AND the right grade. Right? WRONG! the shifting is in the toilet now

Yes. that's the guy.

Another thing to keep in mind when considering tribeca: check out the prices for the replacement rubber on tirerack or wherever you shop for tires.

not that you should be surprised at the price stickers on 235 18R55

and i'd rather not think about the cost of these where i live

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Anton Success

I don't know what's the reliability record for tribeca oil coolers is and I suspect you get one straight out of the factory.

dunno. won't be surprised in one bit if they are not

Yeah. When a manufacturer spend hardly any effort to improve the stick on their mainstream cars (BRZ obviously is not) then it's no wonder that the clientele is flocking to the automatics.

There are manuals and then there are MANUALS. There is a grand canyon between the two.

probably. the reviews are very positive about the shifting feel

what could I say: play with the transmission fluid

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i recently found out it makes the world of the difference

should've heeded the audi guideline to replace the fluid only when doing the tranny overhaul

my thinking was: BP synthetic 75w90 would work just dandy

British Petroleum and Synthetic AND the right grade. Right? WRONG! the shifting is in the toilet now

Yes. that's the van i was referring to.

Another thing to keep in mind when considering tribeca: check out the prices for the replacement rubber on tirerack or wherever you shop for tires.

not that you should be surprised at the price stickers on 235 18R55

and i'd rather not think about the cost of these where i live

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AD

No, I don't mean specifically about Subaru MT's, just MT's in general. There was once a fuel economy and performance advantage to MT's over AT's. These days you usually see the advantage is now with AT's in both respects. And it's now looking like CVT's might usurp both of them.

There's a lot of positive feeling about the BRZ in general, IMO too much positive feeling. It's like they're trying to sell us on a concept that gets beaten in the real world by practically everything.

Oh, I've already checked those out, it's going to be a massive hit, for sure, at least double per tire than what I currently have, and those themselves were at least double what I paid for my previous car's tires.

Yousuf Khan

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Yousuf Khan

I hear you. My wife & I have driven MT for 40+ years now and we both have decided our next cars will be AT. Just not sure when that will be. Her 97 Outback is still running great and we're not going to get rid of it just to get a AT. Same with my 98 Accord.

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Joe J

Well, my 2000 OBW is running, but I can't say it's running great. Up here in Canada, the cold seems to make even cars feel arthritic. I would've kept it going even longer, but I can feel it's just a matter of time before something major goes bad with it. It's just being nice to me, giving me enough time to buy a new one before it gives up completely.

Yousuf Khan

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Yousuf Khan

Well, it's now as pointless to discuss MT in general as it is to discuss AT in general as there are light years between the top performers and the loss leaders. I mean what's the point in owning a poorly shifting manual these days? (nearly dropped an f right there :)

Driving an automatic is so BORING. I live in a city where stop and go is an issue regularly and yet i prefer the fine control (and fun) allowed by a stick. As for the fuel economy the fiat 500 2013 numbers are very telling:

34mpg highway for auto 40 for the manual. For larger cars with 5-6cog automatics it's not as big of an issue(difference) I guess.

that heavily depends on the context. If all the bends you have nearby are cloverleafs: you can forget it. with frequent access to mountains: you'd blow doors on anything this side of lotus (and is there anything on the other side of lotus?)

if these sell in any volume maybe a tiny turbo that's all the rage now will be shoehorned under the hood for the straight lane challenged crowd, though there are plenty cars for that application already (think solid axles in the back :)

on the brighter side of things, at least decent tires are available for tribeca. (I was preparing for the worst given the FHI "SUV" claim)

Now, going down to 17"ers would yield you... :^)

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Anton Success

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