help disabling the seat belt alarm in 2004 liberty/legacy

Why? It's compulsory to wear seatbelt. I think it's good. The gadget would save you $120 fine.

Kien

visiting family on property with gates, city carparks etc.

I know. I know

I've successfully done this on an '04 Subaru Forester in Australia. Just reach under the seat, locate the white plastic plug and disconnect it. Done. Very simple and the car now thinks the seat belt is always connected. Yes, the designers got it the wrong way around for the failsafe condition - thankfully.

The economy display has been changed in the Australian MY05 (financial year 2005) model being sold here now.

What a helpful contribution......... nutter

Thanks Shane, can't wait to give it a go.

I've done it and it works.

Do you think it will adversely affect airbag deployment in any way. my thinking is that they are separate circuitry.

Tuan

Shane,

May I ask why you have disconnected the seat belt alarm? Its obvious that you do not wear the belt. Is that a personal freedom choice?

I recall that before seat belt usage became mandatory I wore them while flying and always thought it strange not to wear them in a car.

Here in the United States of America, mandatory seat belt usage is a matter left to the individual states. Most (all?) states have enacted mandatory seat belt laws -- I know my own state of Michigan has mandated their use, along with mandating helmet use for motorcyclists. Personally, I would use both my seat belt and my helmet (on my motorcycle -- not in my car!) even without such laws, but I nonetheless resent these laws as a violation of individual freedom.

I've been involved in enough online discussions about things automotive to have learned that there is a very determined cadre of safety zealots who knows what's best for all of us and doesn't have any reservation using the force of law to compel compliance with thier own preferences for safety. It matters not whether the issue is seat belts or helmets or cell phone usage or anti-lock brakes or air bags: Those of us who would fail to take every precaution to keep ourselves safe must be protected from our own stupidity. Personally, I find the idea that somebody else can stop me from acting as I want to act -- regardless of whether "safety" is the reason trotted out for this restriction of freedom -- is unabashedly oppressive.

I completely support the right of those who would ride without a helmet to do so, even though I always wear mine when riding -- even when riding in neighboring Ohio, which does not mandate motorcycle helmet use. I completely support the right of those who would drive without a seat belt to do so, even though I always wear mine -- even when riding in the rear seat, where seat belt use is not compulsory. I completely support the right of drivers to disable their air bags, even though I want those on my own vehicles completely functional. And so on. It's just not my place, nor the place of my government, to tell people that they *have* to use these things. It's not our place to force people to protect themselves from danger, if such is not their wish.

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." (Thomas Paine) There are instances where personal choices can be demonstrated to have the potential to harm others. In such cases, there is at least a reasonable (though not necessarily always convincing) argument for restricting such personal choices. But there is no such reasonable argument to defend the forced use of air bags, seat belts, or motorcycle helmets. None at all.

Sorry this was so long. My US$0.02. What is that, about 0.008 or so Euros? :-)

- Greg Reed

What can I say, I just don't like the loud Buzzer!

But, here here on my right to chose.

Oh Ray - you care way to much. Firstly if you need a reminder to wear your seatbelt then you shouldn't be allowed to live alone and should be put in a home.

Secondly it wasn't may car that I disabled the alarm on.

Thirdly, the alarm on my Liberty hasn't been touched.

Fourthly go away.

Shane.