'08 Impala key and transmitter

Hi all,

picked up my "new" company car yesterday. First of all let me say that for all the bashing of GM that has been done (and I've joined in, as I feel that there are legitimate beefs with their products) this is a VAST improvement over the '05 I turned in. Highlights:

- 3.5 engine is MUCH quieter than the 3.4 - still has a little rumble at idle but it's actually not objectionable, but it doesn't get much louder even with the pedal to the mat. Smoother, too. Actually sounds kind of good for a V-6.

- windshield wipers have been fixed. No more goofy "semi-hidden" wipers, now I can leave them up to clean the windows or if I anticipate snow. Also do not run off the edge of the windshield. The blades appear to be similar to the new Bosch "Icon" blades, and even though they appear to be original to the car (car sat around outside for quite a few months before it was assigned to me, so it has low miles but high outdoor exposure) they actually work well. Unfortunately the PIAA silicone blades from my old Imp don't appear to fit, but that's not really GM's fault. (yes, I kept the originals and put them back on the car before I turned it in. I'm not giving away a $40 pair of wiper blades that are still good!)

- seating position is MUCH better. Still wish the driver's seat would go down a little more, but the buckets in the '08 allow much more vertical adjustment than the bench in the '05. (I always felt like I was sitting *on* that car rather than *in* it.) Also lumbar support actually works in the '08; the one in the '05 didn't fit my back at all, I eventually resorted to a rolled up towel shoved behind my back.

- Kudos to GM for NOT using the high beams or turn signals as DRLs as has been their habit in the past. (not a change from the '05, but earlier models had high beam DRLs which I find offensive.) Also the headlights seem fairly decent, but I have only driven the car a few miles at night.

- Radio is MUCH improved over the '05. The '05 was all bass 'n' treble; probably was great for listening to hip hop but not much else. the '08 actually sounds OK with the EQ set flat.

- Improved ground clearance - I can actually drive over curb cuts and pull into my driveway, drive over speed humps, etc. without scraping the air dam. Also the nose will fit over a standard height curb meaning I don't have to leave the tail hanging out of short parking spaces (or worse yet, a parking space with one of those little wheel stop curbs, which the front of the '05 wouldn't fit over.)

- '08 has a real trip computer and real TPMS so you can check your tire pressures from inside the car. Not a huge deal but a nice touch. Why not have a TPMS transponder in the spare though? How many people check the air pressure in their spare tire regularly?

- '08 feels much more solid and rigid than the '05, although this may be an unfair comparison as I'm comparing a car with over 80K miles to a car with 16K miles; it's hard to remember exactly what the '05 felt like when new. Of course I hope that the '08 will hold up better... certainly can't evaluate it yet.

Complaints:

- still no telescoping steering column.

- In a backwards move, GM moved the front turn signal lights from the corner of the car to inboard of the high beams. The side markers do not flash with the turn signals and there are no fender repeaters.

- Front license plate holder is a flimsy piece of crap. Probably only a matter of time before it gets ripped off in an automatic car wash.

- Still equipped with those awful "Goodyear Integrity" tires. Am seriously considering paying for a set of Michelins out of my own pocket just so I don't have to drive on those unsafe pieces of garbage for another 50K miles. Since the car is so much quieter, tire noise is noticeable as well. I wonder if a different tire choice might not reduce the cabin noise level on the highway.

- While the interior styling is much improved over the '05 and at a glance has a much better appearance, the plastic materials used still do not exude an upscale quality. Not a huge deal, but some of GM's competition is doing this much better.

- dual zone climate controls are now optional (and my car doesn't have them.) Not a huge deal, unless you're in a situation like I am where I prefer to be at 65 degrees or cooler and SWMBO isn't happy unless it's over 70 (at which point I'm sweating like mad.) That was one thing about the '05 that I actually really liked.

So far I like the car. This one I may buy out when the lease is up if I stick with the company long enough. That's saying a lot coming from me because I typically don't like FWD cars or large cars in general. But as far as a tool to get me from point A to point B this is acceptable and not unpleasant.

So anyway, my question. I did not pick this car up brand new from a dealership, I "inherited" it from an employee who is no longer with the company. Somewhere along the way one of the keys and fobs got lost; I only have one. Stopped at the Chubby dealer today and they said that my vehicle *does* have an anti-theft system, key has chip in it, $75 for key, $130-something for the fob, I can't program it myself service has to do it (prices were for parts only.) Company will pay for new key but not fob, apparently that is a luxury or something. Now I know because I actually skimmed the owner's manual last night that I can in fact program these myself unless the manual is lying to me and I'm betting I can get a key blank and fob for less elsewhere. The question is, where, and how can I be sure that I'm getting the correct blank and fob? (they look exactly the same as the ones for my '05, which didn't have an anti-theft system, so I could see an opportunity for, say, an unscrupulous eBay seller.) Is this something that a locksmith is likely to have access to, or am I stuck finding a more reasonably priced GM dealer?

thanks,

Nate

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Nate Nagel
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Is this something that a locksmith is likely

Glad you are impressed with the new GM. I am cautiously retreating from my prior position, but I dont know if I can trust them enough to buy one yet.

I havent had to do it yet, but was on the edge of having to get a new fob. Dealership was the most expensive route.

There was a site on Ebay selling fobs and instructions on how to program, which I might consider. Should be an easy search.

Autozone also accesses fobs. Might be worth talking to them. Some of their counter help is actually knowledgable and helpful.

Reply to
HLS

The pressure guage is not a gift from GM, it is a requirement to have. Putting a transmitter in the spare may cost $1, but times 8 million cars, it is enough to pay for a CEO trip to Washington.

Any chance of finding the former driver? Chances are, the fob is in his wife's pocketbook.

Reply to
Ed Pawlowski

True dat, but while it makes maintenance more difficult (e.g. it's damn near impossible to rotate your own tires unless you have your own air compressor) to have true TPMS it is in my mind at least a nice upgrade from the '05's ABS-based system, which only warned you when a tire was so low that it was detecting a wheel speed difference. This one will let you know if a tire is a couple PSI down from where you set it, ASSuming you care enough to check. So since they're going "above and beyond" anyway, why not go whole hog?

I know the guy that had it previously; he was single, and not the kind of guy to lose stuff. It was transferred from at least three previous cities before ending up in his possession, the key/fob are probably long gone.

In a weird coincidence, I pulled the trunk mat at a gas station this AM as I was airing up all the tires (one was low and as it happens so was the spare, plus experience with previous Impala tells me that the 30 PSI recommended inflation is too low for good ride, handling and traction -

35 seems to work better, although I have not chalked the tires) I found a GA temp tag and a dealership license plate frame from Pittsburgh - which immediately brought a nostalgia attack, because I remember the exact location of said dealership, as well as having seen waaaaaay too many of their commercials on TV as a kid. No, it wasn't Century III Chevrolet :) (any yunzers in the house will undoubtedly be cussing my name as that silly jingle will be stuck in their head all damn day)

Yes, I spent my Saturday morning demothballing and detailing a company car. What can I say, I like to ride in style.

nate

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Nate Nagel

I hear ya. If it helps any, the other person in my position had the twin of my old car, and she hated it. She now has the twin of my "new" car, but has had it longer than I (her previous ride hit its mileage limit before mine did) and she seems to be happy with it. We've got a handful of new-style Impalas in the fleet (I think mine was actually the last pre-06 to be replaced) and I haven't heard of any major issues with them, nor have I heard many complaints. (of course, I'm not involved with fleet management/maintenance, so I doubt I hear everything either.)

I'll have to see if there's one nearby. Used to have one but it moved, and since there's a good independent literally walking distance from my house, I haven't been bothered to look for chains (save for Pep Boys; they tend to have the best selection of good electrical connectors etc. for some reason.)

nate

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Nate Nagel

Glad to hear you are happy with the car. For the keys, and Fob's, I would go to e-bay. I have bought several new and used units off there, and they work great.

Reply to
80 Knight

Is this a leased vehicle? If so the second fob and key are probably in the leasing office. That was SOP for the leasing outfit I dealt with.

Reply to
Steve W.

You sound a lot like me in that regard. Some years back I moved to a new position and inherited an AMC Concord - remember them?? Everyone hated them so hardly anyone took care of them. Plus most people don't take very good care of company cars anyway. I drove it for a couple weeks and then wrote up a LONG list of all the stuff that wasn't right and sent it back to the shop. Got it back and they had fixed everything including a bunch of stuff I didn't list including all new belts and hosed. What they didn't notice was one of the belts was rubbing on the lower radiator hose. That only lasted a couple days and it was back to the shop. it was actually not all that bad a car but hardly one I would have selected if I had a choice. I even get my company cars waxed from time to time. When I turn them in they are as close to "like new" as you will ever find a fleet car.

Reply to
Ashton Crusher

I wouldn't think that a Concord would have been that bad of a car, really... but I wasn't old enough to drive while those were still on the road :)

I had kind of the same issue as you with my '05... took it to a local shop I trusted over the holidays to have the front end checked out, they recommended $2500 worth of work to make it right again. Fleet people obviously told them not to perform the work; my boss hit the roof and I was told to take it to one of the shops that had a better relationship with the fleet people. That shop's estimate was $4000... I got a new wheel bearing, and was told to let it rattle until my new car came in :P Which I was OK with, I wasn't going to buy that one out anyway - just so long as "until my new car came in" wasn't past "when things start actually breaking on my old car" which it wasn't.

nate

Reply to
N8N

The concord wasn't "that bad" but not exactly stylish nor powerful. When I switched jobs I left behind my like new 1980?? Plymouth Fury Police Package. The last generation of great full sized RWD Chrysler products.

Reply to
Ashton Crusher

What was that old adage about not looking a gift horse in the mouth? ;)

Reply to
Mike Hunter

Your type of horse is never seen head on.

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HLS

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