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E.G.R. Valve 18011P07000 $191.66

~:~ MarshMonster ~:~

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Bulletin No.

Issue Date NOV 13, 1992

Model ALL

Applicable To ALL

File Under GENERAL

Vehicle Fails State Inspection and Maintenance Emission Test

SYMPTOM

Some vehicles with properly functioning emission control systems may fail certain states' tailpipe emissions test.

PROBABLE CAUSE

The following conditions may cause the car to exceed the state standards:

^ The vehicle is not fully warmed-up.

^ The idle period is too long.

^ The engine is shut-off, hot-soaked and restarted.

^ The underhood ambient temperature is very high.

NOTE: All Honda automobiles do meet the U.S. E.P.A. and California emission standards when tested under the E.P.A. certification test procedure.

CORRECTIVE ACTION

Do the following before conducting the tailpipe emissions test.

The emissions test should be performed with the car at normal operating temperature. Before testing be sure the car has been driven for several miles at 25 mph or above, and test the car as soon as possible after driving.

1. Keep the engine at operating temperature (the cooling fan has cycled on and off twice).

1. To normalize the system, raise the engine speed to above 3500 rpm and allow the throttle to snap closed to idle.

WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION

None: information only.

~:~ MarshMonster ~:~

the car is actually running what seems to be 100% rich, had to set it that way for the timing mark to line up properly, odd... maybe unburned fuel got to the cat and lit-off and burned it up... wish i had one of those cool digital timing lights that shows you the rpm's and such, it's amazing that auto zone and pep boys dont have a loaner timing light, but everything else..

marsh monster - where did you get the info on that EGR? does it go to my car? AFAIK mine never came with one, and not sure if one can be added on.... will definitely follow those procedures on the next smog test, and raise hell if they dont want to smog it right when i get there (appointment).

I'm not MM, but go here and plug in EGV551

That generation of Civic and Integra did not have EGR valves if the vehicle was equipped with a manual transmission. My '92 Integra does not have one (thank goodness).

You've given scant information here. I don't see how anyone could possibly suggest a remedy with what little you've provided. Please supply ALL your actual numbers (as well as allowable limits), plus the numbers for ALL the other gases, *including CO2*.

Oil in the PCV system is symptomatic of a possible serious problem. You need to fix that problem, not mask it with bodges like oil catch cans.

If you're pumping oil into the PCV system with that car, either your crankcase breather hose is plugged, your oil separator box is sludged up, or your valve cover is. (I can't remember which place that generation has its oil separator baffles.)

It could also be that the engine is severely worn and you have excessive blowby, which will overwhelm the PCV system.

yes it's a manual

trying to get them from the state right now, will post them ASAP

blowby.... check out the dodge neons, straight from the factory.... enough blowby through the PCV to choke a refinery, whats wrong with those cars?

not sure if i am, just wanted to ask if they were legal before i put one on to see if i am, i doubt it cause the pcv valve is clean, but i didn't want any blowby getting back into the intake

Can't answer that one. You'll have to check the package. I understand parts that are CARB/BAR certified say so on the box.

It's not blowby that's a problem in getting to the intake, it's the oil the blowby might contain.

A PCV system in good shape will not transmit oil. If it's plugged somewhere -- partially or fully -- oil can get pumped into the intake through the BREATHER tube, not the PCV valve. PCV systems get plugged primarily through the damage done by insufficiently frequent oil changes.

As for your high NOx, have you checked your ignition timing? And if you've got excessive oil consumption, carbon can build up in the combustion chamber, resulting in higher compression pressures and higher NOx.

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The info came from AllData.

but.....now a moot point.

As Hugo clarified, your standard is not equipped with one. I used an automatic tranny as a default. (you hadn't stated yet)

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