'96 Ford Explorer alignment issue

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1996 Ford Explorer XLT, 4.0, 4x4

I replaced the L/R upper/lower control arms (new 1 piece R-side), I/O tie rod ends and shocks, which was an adventure in itself. I'd never worked on a torsion bar suspension before and I haven't done front-end work of this magnitude on anything newer than a '69 (and probably '68), and not since the '70s.

It only took 12 hours (and the R upper (multi-piece) arm she replaced

4 years ago for $600 was shot to shit).

Took it to be aligned this morning and the tech tells me he can't do it because the camber is out 2° and the stock Ford adjustment cam is insufficiently eccentric to bring it in to spec, so I need an aftermarket cam.

Damned if there isn't such a thing, NAPA version: Part Number: NCP

2642953

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Anyone else ever run into this issue...?

(I tried to talk her into a new rig since there isn't a whole lot of sense in putting $2-3000 in parts (it needs more work) on a $1000 vehicle that won't be worth a dime more afterward, but lost that argument on the basis of $3K being less than $15-20K and she doesn't give one f*ck about cars if it gets her from A-B in relative safety and comfort, and this one only has 91,000 miles and is otherwise in good shape.) -----

- gpsman

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gpsman
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dude, that vehicle is a killer. bite the bullet and take it off the road.

the bottom has dropped completely out of the used car market lately - $3k will get you into a much safer and more reliable vehicle. you'd be surprised if you shop around. get an accord wagon for $800 and $2k will get you almost completely refurbished. if it even needs it.

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jim beam

The minute they ban Jeep CJs, or I see one not operated as if it were a Porsche.

It's pretty hard to beat 100% reliability.

I've been anticipating this situation, shopping, and working on her for better than a year.

According to my local observations the only people who don't know the bottom dropped out of the used market are sellers, buyers, and dealers.

There's nothing to suggest 90% of rigs advertised on our local Craigslist are not idiots trolling for morons. Half of private owners who "must sell" their ragged/miled out pieces of shit can't be bothered to post more than 1 blurry cellphone picture taken from the next county and 5 words to describe their vehicle; typically "email 4 mor inf" combined with "serious buyers only" combined with "include your phone in your email or be ignored".

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It's hilarious, really. It is as if they think the world is standing by and holding their breath waiting for their personal rig to come on the market.

That would not be a bad idea if that's what she wanted, but it isn't.

She's a competent enough driver, but often frightened by the obvious lack of due diligence exhibited by the typical motorist so she wants a lot of metal between them and herself (can't blame her for that), and the better visibility that an SUV provides. -----

- gpsman

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gpsman

You noticed that people don't read the visor labels as well !! Amazing how the machines always get blamed when 99% of the time it's operator error...

I love the ones that take the picture sideways and at thumbnail size.. Usually around dusk so you can tell that there is something in the pic, just not what... CL doesn't charge extra if you put up GOOD pictures and a good description

What are you hunting for?

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Steve W.

Don't get me started. It's the time of year when "officials" can't resist blaming crashes on weather. For some reason it is rarely considered why weather attacks so few motorists, but not the vast majority subject to the identical conditions.

I especially like 1000 word walls of uppercase text that describe the vehicle in stream of consciousness story format, including "V-8" and "ALL AVAILABLE OPTIONS" which I've yet to find not to be wrong... posted 2-3 times a day.

Nothing, now. I offer my recommendations, then shut up. If anything major goes wrong when I'm done refurbishing this dog it'll be my fault anyway.

I wanted to put her in something more modern, with remote start, heated mirrors/seats, 4-wheel discs, etc., but she just has no interest in those things. If I bought her a new loaded Escalade for Xmas, which I considered for 5 seconds, she wouldn't like it one bit more than the old Ford, and probably less.

It took me a lot of years to learn women who aren't crazy aren't going to love me, so I'm keeping this one. -----

- gpsman

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gpsman

Or the SUV injures X, Or SUV went off the road., Or the ever popular SUV roll over. Then the picture shows a mini-van or a crossbred POS. Guess it just takes too much to actually KNOW what the vehicle is. BUT come on calling a Grand-Am an SUV!!!!

I'm surprised when the engine description is correct, given the lack of awareness of most of the motoring public.

Smart idea.

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Steve W.

until it goes wrong.

i agree with your sentiments and understand that you want to keep her happy. but i wouldn't let her drive that thing if she were mine and i wanted to keep her alive because it's a fundamentally dangerous vehicle. if she can always guarantee to keep it upright and uncrashed, all is well, but she can't and when it crashes, its performance is not only bad, it stands a good chance of killing her where other vehicles won't. the "lot of metal" argument, with respect, doesn't mean a thing because it's how the metal behaves that matters.

car-based wagons are much safer in crashes and can be relied on to not only not roll, but maneuver their way out of crashes much more effectively than an exploder.

re used car prices, i agree, c/l has more than its share of idiots, but asking price != selling price. the s/o of one of my best friends works for the biggest toyota dealer here in the bay area. they're having real problems with used car inventory - they just can't get rid of it. lots of stuff headed out to auctions just to get it offloaded. shop about and see what you can get.

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jim beam

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