Bleeding Brakes on Toyota

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:27:07 -0500, "Steve W." wrote:

I'm just north of Chicago now, and they salt here. Last 13 years, before that in Chicago. As I said, I've replaced a few lines to back wheels due to rust, and the bleeders on the wheel cylinders will rust solid. Never affected caliper or cylinder operation though. Rust is hard to figure. My '88 Celebrity was rusted to hell after 10 years, while my '90 Corsica didn't start getting bad until last year. Might be the Celebrity got driven in more salt water, and it was parked on a street where it got splashed all the time. Had more snow the years I had the Celebrity too. Last year my '97 Lumina suddenly showed it's ready to hole on the rockers, and the right rear brake line went. Decided not to replace a flattened motor mount because of that. Too much work on that car when the car might have only a few years left. Have to remove a half-shaft to replace the mount. Put a new cylinder on when we did the rusted line because the kid twisted off the bleeder. He didn't want to use my method of cracking the line connection to bleed. That's worked for me before. Only 5 bucks or so for the cylinder, but I think he had to pull the shoes. I was keeping him company, but unless I'm doing it I forget. Was that you I was talking to about the rotors on the '97 Lumina? I expected them to be rusted on but they came right off. I've had it for 5 years, so maybe they were replaced before I did it, because they had grooved. I've hung those calipers a few times, and there's no rust to speak of up front on the car. I suspect the rear is always getting sprayed more when driving in salt water. Anyway, I agree rust is a PITA where they salt. Just hasn't affected my brakes except for rear lines and cylinder bleeders. Worst rust case I had was my '74 Dart. Had to dump it because the rear shock mounts rusted away. It was only 8 years old. Second worst was my '64 Bug. By '74 the front seats were dropping through the floorpan. I can live with the rust until it starts affecting safety or letting water in.

--Vic

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Vic Smith
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How about using a water sprinkler, drive your vehicle back and forth a few times above the water sprinkler to flush that salt crap from the bottom?

A few days ago, we got a bunch of snow here.The road crews have started using salt mixed with rock to deal with icy roads, bridges and overpasses.They used to use only sand. I think they want peoples vehicles to start rusting out! cuhulin

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cuhulin

Upstate NY. In a location where, if the weatherman says we MIGHT get a single flake of snow they send out the salt/sand trucks...

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Steve W.

"Steve W." wrote in news:hlakde$ccq$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

This year I can believe it. Man have you been getting it. I'm just north of you in Ottawa and we have 2" on our lawns.

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fred

Hah. I live a few miles outside of DC, and my front hard is buried feet deep, as is half the street. We're supposed to get more today as well. I'm not sure if I'm calling in sick or not yet. (someone gave me a cold for V-day, and it's not really what I was hoping for.)

nate

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Nate Nagel

In message , Steve W. writes

Agree, here in the UK where roads are gritted when the temperature falls below 3 degrees, an average cars life span is something like 9.6 years, it is then uneconomic to repair because of corrosion to the body caused by road salt.

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Clive

Clive wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@yewbank.demon.co.uk:

That's what undercoating is for. You have the car sprayed with "tar" every few years.

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fred

I'd LOVE to have snow. In this ares I could go out and mow the lawn!!! It starts snowing and there are lots of flakes, Then it just stops....

Being that I make some extra money blowing and moving snow it's been a BAD year. BUT the lack of snow doesn't stop the state and town from salting the crap out of everything...

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Steve W.

Proper British cars don't need this because normal oil seepage coats the underside and protects it.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

In message , Scott Dorsey writes

True, original English cars did, But now the major manufacturers are Nissan, Toyota, Tata (Jaguar, Land Rover), BMW (mini) and Ford. Oil leakage has become a thing of the past.

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Clive

One of my Popular Science, or Popular Mechanics magazines, back in the

1950s, a guy bought a new 1950 Ford car.He bought a gallon or two of roofing tar and he painted the underside of his car with that roofing tar.He also removed the inside door panels and he painted roofing tar in there too.He said it helps prevent rust and his car ran quieter too.Sounds like a good idea to me. cuhulin
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cuhulin

snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net wrote in news:13039-4B7A02FC-732@storefull-

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Not a lot different than what the undercoating companies do. BTW arround here undercoating every 5 years or so is necessary. No gravel used on the roads, but the combination of salt, liquid water and sand is deadly.

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fred

In message , fred writes

The problem is stone chips that crack the underseal and allow the ingress of salt water, which then doesn't dry of in the wind but just corrodes.

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Clive

A gallon of roofing tar is cheap.No problem to touch up underneath, in the Spring or Summer or Fall. cuhulin

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cuhulin

Oooooh! I'm shattered!

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Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B

This is most sad and depressing.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

Lucas electrics.

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Do you know Jaguars became better Jaguars? When Jaguar merged with Ford.

They are not merged nowadays though. cuhulin

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cuhulin

In message , snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net writes

I don't think so, the Jaguar brand was rebadged Ford Try watching Top Gear with Clarkson, he likes to play around but he knows who makes what.

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Clive

Sort of rebadged Fords. The low end models were Ford products with better interiors but the top end stuff was all still Jag designs. Quite a few still had Lucas electrics in them.

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Steve W.

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What happened when Jaguar merged with Ford? devilfinder.com Lucas Electrics British Cars

I Guarantee you, if I was living in Europe and if I was looking to buy a van, or a car, (it would be a van, because I prefer big vans) I would look for a made in America, American brand name van.I could travel and live in my van.I have done that before. cuhulin

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cuhulin

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