Dodge caravan Metric Tools?

The DIN (Deutsches Institut für Normung) EIS standards and the JIS share a lot BUT there are more than a few gotchas in the mix. Depending on the thread pitch itself the root diameters and thread wall angles may be different. In practical use it means that you may have a M-8 bolt in JIS and an M-8 hole in DIN and they will not go together. Things like head bolts on German autos and bottom end parts are a couple of the OOPs areas I have run into.

Does that mean you don't use sparkplugs? :)

You need to correct the factual errors in your postscript because I saw Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. with his hand over his heart when the national anthem played, and unlike when George Bush did it, he wasn't playing with his left nipple.

But he didn't. It was a school where the boys and girls sat in the same classrooms, something that never happens in a Madrassa.

His name and father are.

He never was. He's Methodist, just like Bush.

You already did, in a cowardly, underhanded way, not the way a real man would. But I won't hold that against you.

The Bush family has been trying to do that to us for years and has long been good buddies with the bin Ladens and the chief sponsor of Islamic terrorism, the Saud family.

Enlighten me. Tell me what a Real Man is. After all these years, I'm having a problem considering your proposal that I don't measure up.

Nick

.....and cheap copies , too. Even wheel and engine bearings

I have worked on some Russian gear that was metric but with a different thread profile than the standard M thread.

Kind of like 1/4-20 Whitworth...

--scott

You don't want one. That's actually a Chinese copy of the Russian Ural copy of the BMW R-71. The Ural is better made than the Chinese one by quite a bit... and it's not so well made although it IS a hell of a lot of fun.

--scott

"Steve W." wrote in news:fp65ut$p7c$ snipped-for-privacy@aioe.org:

I had NO idea, so thanks.

We have two Japanese cars, and Japanese is all I've ever owned (with the exception of one Dodge Coronet).

Any Metric fasteners I've ever bought have come from all sorts of places, from the auto dealer to auto parts jobbers to the corner hardware store. I've never encountered any sort of problems with the fit of any bolt in any hole. Nor have I ever been asked which standard of Metric fastener I require.

I have a Metric tap and die set. The labeling does not specify the standard to which the tools conform.

I'm thinking either most fasteners must be made to a single standard (DIN?), or the standards are so similar you'd need to find yourself in unusual situations to see any difference.

A good rule of thumb on domestic vehicles with mixed fasteners:

The bolts or studs that thread directly into the heads and block will be standard, while all others will be metric.

They are slowly phasing in new designs/castings to take the place of certain 30+ year old engines, so just be patient ;-)

Toyota MDT in MO

Some of the thread profiles are the same, and the ones that aren't are mostly close enough.

For most things, there's not a big deal, but if you have bolts that need to be torqued precisely, it's a huge deal. This makes it a big deal for the aircraft industry.

It's also a big deal on very small parts where the torque to seat them and the torque to strip them are sometimes already very close. I encountered that issue with M1.5 screw on the Studer (German) tape machines.

Yes, this is what makes it so insidious. Everything is mostly fine until you find yourself in an unusual situation.

It't not QUITE as bad as Whitworth threads... a 1/4-20 Whitworth bolt will fit into a 1/4-20NC nut but the 1/4-20NC bolt won't fit into a 1/4-20 Whitworth nut. Or is it the other way around? Legions of folks ruined MG engine blocks this way.

--scott

I have a lot of taps and dies and threading thingys.I bought them at some pawn shops around here.Sometimes, there are some good tools for sale in those pawn shops, you never know what you will find in there.

One of the pawn shops, about five miles me, you have to be carefull when you walk through the door, there are all kinds of tools and tool boxes on the floor, the shelves,everywhere.My favorite kind of pawn shop. cuhulin

Comboverfish wrote in news:ba725630-67c3-4f05- snipped-for-privacy@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

According to an article I have in a British magazine...

In the 1950s, Ford of France sold the tooling for a particular vehicle (called the "Vedette") to Simca. Simca then produced the car as the Simca Vedette.

The article says the car was identical in all ways to the Ford design...except that Simca converted every single fastener from Imperial to Metric. I wonder what that cost?

It would take so much less effort to simply let the MG blocks ruin themselves...

Toyota MDT in MO

Does that rhyme with "bidet"? I sure hope so.

Please kill me if I ever have to work on a French built, Ford designed car.

Toyota MDT in MO

Comboverfish wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's pronounced vedd-ETT, like "Corvette". I think it means "diplomat".

Would you like to be beat to death with a Metric, SAE, AF or Whitworth wrench?

I used to work at a factory that manufactured auto and big heavy 18 wheeler and lawn mower batteries and every six months or so, we manufactured a few pallet loads of six volt old timey looking batteries for old MG cars. cuhulin

snipped-for-privacy@webtv.net wrote in news:21472-47B7940F-729@storefull-

Yep, they were six volt batteries.One of the old cars I used to own in the 1970s was a 1950 Ford six cylinder car, flat head engine with manual shift transmission and overdrive.That was before I worked at the battery factory, that old factory first opened up back around 1960 or 1961, I think.The factory closed down about ten years ago, we were manufacturing up to 14,000 batteries daily on two shifts.The factory ran five and a half days each week, half a day on Saturdays.I went there and I bought an eight volt battery for my 1950 Ford car.I had to adjust the regulator with a pair of pliers so the eight volt battery could charge up properly.That eight volt battery made the engine start up faster and the head lights were brighter too. cuhulin